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re: Who was the biggest American sport icon of the 20th century?

Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:42 pm to
Babe Ruth???? Think about it Lester. Look at the numbers before he came along.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:42 pm to
He was the 2nd most dominant in a team sport.
Posted by jackwoods4
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:43 pm to
A lot of people have said choices I would agree with. I'll add Bo Jackson and Jack Nicklaus.

Bo might not have achieved as much in terms of career stats as a lot of these guys. However, he was like a mythological figure. Jack is the GOAT. There's just no other way to put it. When you're the GOAT in your sport, you have to be considered one of the biggest icons in sports history.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:45 pm to
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how?
Hit more homers than an entire league. Singlehandedly killed an era of ultra small ball and proved the longball was viable. Literally invented slugging all by himself
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:46 pm to
Saying Jordan was the most famous man on the planet doesn't mean shite.

We have millions of TV and the internet now, anybody can be famous.

How about...Japanese grunts 70 years ago - who never had TV or much education and of course no internet, shouting from caves on Iwo Jima and Okinowa...


"To Hell with Babe Ruth!!!!!"

Then you tell me about fame.

If Jordan ever becomes a rallying cry for a foreign country in attacking us, then we can talk genro.

This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 6:47 pm
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:46 pm to
I would say Babe Ruth. Jordan is a good choice, but he came at a time when it was easier to market athletes. Babe Ruth was the king in the sport that was watched and tracked by virtually every American.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:48 pm to
You have s problem with Ruth as the answer???? If so??? You are fricking stupid.
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:48 pm to
peyton
Posted by airfernando
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:48 pm to
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Ali, Ruth, and Jordan. I'd say Jordan.
I'd say it's between Ali and Jordan. More people had access to seeing Jordan, so I'd probably say Jordan too.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:49 pm to
You have zero value of sports history.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:49 pm to
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Babe Ruth???? Think about it Lester. Look at the numbers before he came along.



answer my question
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:50 pm to
Ruth did a lot of overseas stuff as well...
Did exhibition games in Japan, did tours throughout Europe for the soldiers, etc.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:51 pm to
Why are you responding to me?

I said it was easily Ruth.

Japanese grunts in the caves shut off from society and the world in the midst of a war knew who Babe Ruth was.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 6:52 pm
Posted by genro
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:51 pm to
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How about...Japanese grunts 70 years ago - who never had TV or much education and of course no internet, shouting from caves on Iwo Jima and Okinowa...


"To Hell with Babe Ruth!!!!!"

Then you tell me about fame.

If Jordan ever becomes a rallying cry for a foreign country in attacking us, then we can talk genro.

I'm not arguing. I love that anecdote.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:52 pm to
I just did. Ruth was the most important sports figure in the last century because of what he was able to do as far as taking his sport to a level it's never been. Ruth did that. As great as Jordan or Wayne were, they just did not take their sport to the same level as Ruth did.
Posted by tiderider
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:54 pm to
it's either ruth or ali ... jordan's a somewhat distant 3rd, imo ... jordan, as others stated, came along when technology and mass media could market someone of his caliber ... ruth came along when america was really establishing itself as a global power, so that sense of pride runs deep ... ali came along during the 60s and represented, for better or worse, the dynamics of that decade (and the 70s, to some extent) ...

think those two are more iconic than jordan ...
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:55 pm to
you do know they changed the baseballs and outlawed pitches like the spitball & the shine ball shortly before offense increased in the 1910's. Everyone started hitting more HRs and for higher batting averages. Babe Ruth just so happened to be the best of them.
Posted by rpg37
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:56 pm to
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Who was the biggest American sport icon of the 20th century?


Mark Spitz, Babe Ruth, Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, Jesse Owens, and Muhammad Ali.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 6:57 pm to
I think those putting Jordan anywhere but first really cannot grasp his popularity and greatness. Which is understandable, because it is that vast.
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:03 pm to
Babe Ruth
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