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re: Where does Nolan Ryan rank among your list of best pitchers of all time?
Posted on 8/11/16 at 4:46 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Posted on 8/11/16 at 4:46 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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But was very hittable.
He was anything but hittable, with the best H/9 in history.
But he walked way way too many batters (most ever by a wide margin), and that led to many more runs than his stuff should have allowed.
I'd probably rank him somewhere around 20th all time. 9 pitchers have won 3 or more Cy Youngs and he never won 1.
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 4:47 pm to COTiger
quote:a bleacher report slide show by Laura Ludlum
LINK
awesome
Posted on 8/11/16 at 4:50 pm to CockInYourEar
Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Warren Spahnn, Greg Maddux, Roger Clemens, Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, Bob Feller, Tom Seaver, Steve Carlton, Bob Gibson, Cy Young, Grover Cleveland Alexander, Left Grove & Eddie Plank.
That's 15 that were better than him, and doesn't include relief pitchers or Negro League players.
ESPN doesn't even have him in the top 10 of right handed starters
That's 15 that were better than him, and doesn't include relief pitchers or Negro League players.
ESPN doesn't even have him in the top 10 of right handed starters
Posted on 8/11/16 at 4:51 pm to Kafka
I used it to illustrate the number of losses he had.
Learn to read.
Learn to read.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 4:58 pm to TigerintheNO
quote:Then you can even get into the pitchers that had a more dominant peak like Glavine, Blyleven, Hershiser, Schilling, Pettitte, Eckersley, and Koufax.
Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Warren Spahnn, Greg Maddux, Roger Clemens, Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, Bob Feller, Tom Seaver, Steve Carlton, Bob Gibson, Cy Young, Grover Cleveland Alexander, Left Grove & Eddie Plank.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 5:17 pm to 225bred
he's the best of my lifetime, thus far... wish i could have seen Bob Gibson and Sandy Koufax, in their prime, though...
Posted on 8/11/16 at 5:24 pm to 225bred
Brett Favre of baseball
Posted on 8/11/16 at 5:42 pm to chRxis
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he's the best of my lifetime, thus far
Only if you are dead.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 5:43 pm to McCaigBro69
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I made this thread a month ago and it did not go well
THIS.........
Posted on 8/11/16 at 5:47 pm to dukke v
What do you think?
Posted on 8/11/16 at 5:50 pm to COTiger
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What do you think?
About Ryan??? All-Time??? He was A GREAT strikeout Pitcher. But also threw A TON of Walks... His No-Hitters speak for themselves.
But he is NOT A top 15 Pitcher all-time..... IMO...
Posted on 8/11/16 at 5:52 pm to TigerintheNO
There's a Fox Sports One out there that has a mass number 3 all time. There's going to be a lot of subjective opinions by a lot of writers, but you can't take away that he has way more strikeouts and no hitters than anyone else.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 6:00 pm to dukke v
And as I mentioned in another post, he's #3 on the all time list for number of losses.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 6:12 pm to McCaigBro69
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I made this thread a month ago and it did not go well
"Will there ever be a greater pitcher than Nolan Ryan in the modern era?" is not the same as this thread, not at all really
Posted on 8/11/16 at 6:14 pm to Maximus
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Brett Favre of baseball
Pretty good comparison actually
Posted on 8/11/16 at 6:18 pm to LL012697
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Brett Favre of baseball
Pretty good comparison actually
It is, if you eliminate MVPs/CY Youngs and post season success.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 7:05 pm to TigerintheNO
Jim Palmer should be on that list.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:09 pm to 225bred
top 5 of recent pitchers.
three tiers for pitchers.
pitchers I saw as a boy and teenager on up to age 30
Warren Spahn
Don Newcombe best all around not named Babe Ruth
Bob Gibson
Koufax best once he figured it out
recent
Pedro
guys I never saw pitch. Some famous guy threw back to back no hitters on short rest.
I have Pedro Martinez #1 due to his brilliance his best years.
Pedro
Ryan
Seaver
Carlton
three tiers for pitchers.
pitchers I saw as a boy and teenager on up to age 30
Warren Spahn
Don Newcombe best all around not named Babe Ruth
Bob Gibson
Koufax best once he figured it out
recent
Pedro
guys I never saw pitch. Some famous guy threw back to back no hitters on short rest.
I have Pedro Martinez #1 due to his brilliance his best years.
Pedro
Ryan
Seaver
Carlton
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:23 pm to 225bred
You would think someone in the top 5 of all time would have a better record than 324-292
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:27 pm to Retrograde
Nolan Ryan does not need to be ranked on any all time list.
Ryan was never really the best pitcher in his league while he played.
You could argue that the only time he was best Pitcher of his team was in Texas and California.
Ryan was never really the best pitcher in his league while he played.
You could argue that the only time he was best Pitcher of his team was in Texas and California.
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