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re: Where do you put Rodgers in NFL and where in GB history?

Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by Taurus
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:10 pm to
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But on the other side, you could also argue that he only has one ring because his peers are arguably three of ten the greatest QBs in NFL history.


And I'll argue he would have at least one more already if not for shitty defenses and a dumbass coach who plays not to lose.

Oh, and that dumbass TE(??) who can't do his job on an onside kick.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:10 pm to
his qb play is above brett favre's best (considerably, imo) ... may not play as long, but his ceiling has already beaten favre's ... hard to judge him against starr since qb play is so different ... he doesn't have multiple rings, but his organization doesn't have multiple allegations of impropriety, either ...
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:12 pm to
1. Staubach
2. Aikman
3. Marino
4. Fouts
5. Rodgers.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17092 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:22 pm to
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The thing about the stats is that the rules are heavily weighted in favor of quarterbacks and receivers, and that Rodgers is only one of four active QBs shattering every record in the book.

With regards to Brady & Manning, and other active QBs, his stats blow them out of the water.

2 quick examples:

1) After today, he has 237 TDs to only 57 INTs for a 4.15:1 TD to INT ratio. No else is even at 3:1. Tom Brady, who takes care of the ball wonderfully, is at 2.8:1. Rodgers would have to throw 27 INTs without throwing a TD to be at 2.8 to 1.

2) His career QB rating of 106.8, is nearly 10 points higher than anyone else, in history.

He's only 31, I can only imagine how much better he can get. IMO, we are witnessing the GOAT, in his prime.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:31 pm to
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He's only 31, I can only imagine how much better he can get. IMO, we are witnessing the GOAT, in his prime.



GOATs aren't 6-5 overall and 0-2 vs. Colin Kaepernick in the playoffs. He was 4-0 in 2010 but is 2-5 the rest of the way with 3 one-and-dones.

Completing 80 percent of his passes in a game against the Lions in September with 5 TDs and 0 INT is damn good, but ultimately doesn't mean shite if you don't win in January.

But yes, his best is damn near perfect.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17092 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:38 pm to
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GOATs aren't 6-5 overall and 0-2 vs. Colin Kaepernick in the playoffs. He was 4-0 in 2010 but is 2-5 the rest of the way with 3 one-and-dones.


I never did understand the whole QB vs QB argument. Football is a team game, and his playoff stats are:

23 TDs
7 INTs
65%
101 Rating

Not exactly pedestrian numbers.
Posted by harry coleman beast
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:39 pm to
fricking brandon bostick
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:49 pm to
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23 TDs
7 INTs
65%
101 Rating


One game-ending strip-six vs. Arizona
Posted by harry coleman beast
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Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:52 pm to
He scored 45 points in regulation in that game
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95507 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 8:55 pm to
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I never did understand the whole QB vs QB argument. Football is a team game, and his playoff stats are:

23 TDs
7 INTs
65%
101 Rating

Not exactly pedestrian numbers.
It is because that guy and others are retards. I mean those numbers are unreal. The fact the Packers lost has nothing to do with Rodgers. He has Goat playoff performances for a Qb. Name one better than him in the playoffs. You cant
This post was edited on 10/4/15 at 8:56 pm
Posted by harry coleman beast
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 9:01 pm to
Joe Flacco
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95507 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 9:06 pm to
Flacco Nope

25 tds
10 ints
56%
88 rating
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 9:10 pm to
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One game-ending strip-six vs. Arizona
Nevermind that he led his offense to something like 45 points. You can't be that ignorant...oooo wait you're the guy that can't understand basic concepts like supply and demand when it comes to sports media.

Go ahead with your irrational arguments, we'll continue to see your absurdity and wonder how a person still can't understand the concepts that he's incessantly argued about for years.
This post was edited on 10/4/15 at 9:12 pm
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 9:25 pm to
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Go ahead with your irrational arguments, we'll continue to see your absurdity and wonder how a person still can't understand the concepts that he's incessantly argued about for years.



Like how he overthrew an uncovered Greg Jennings on the deep post the play before the strip? He didn't have to hurry the throw and he overthrew him by five yards. Jennings' double move was so good, the referee fell on his arse trying to backpedal and get out of his way. And he missed him. Badly.

Not to mention that Drew Brees had similar numbers against the same Cardinals team one week later. AT HALFTIME.

Game would have ended right there. Strip should have never happened.

I don't care about the personal attacks. Go ahead with your fantasy football analysis of player greatness. You're probably the type of person who argues that Shane Vereen is one of the 10 best RBs in the NFL because of his PPR league value.
Posted by LL012697
Member since May 2013
3963 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 9:31 pm to
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GOATs aren't 6-5 overall and 0-2 vs. Colin Kaepernick in the playoffs.



In those 2 games Colin Kaepernick averaged 390 yards of total offense. Ya that's right, that retard who bounces throws and can't read a defense approached 400 yards of offense. Let that sink in and then explain to me how that was Rodgers fault. TIA
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 9:31 pm to
Best in the new rules era
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 9:34 pm to
i was joking. I blow rodgers on here more than anyone. Flacco's 2012 playoffs was the best ever though. 11 td's 0 ints 285 ypg super bowl mvp. He also has 7 road playoff wins.

Oh yeah he beat brady and p manning on the road too

Absurd
This post was edited on 10/4/15 at 9:43 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 9:40 pm to
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And he missed him. Badly.
So you're down to an incompletion as support for your argument. A single data point; such compelling evidence.
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Go ahead with your fantasy football analysis of player greatness.
He has phenomenonal practical statistics, irrespective of their fantasy applicability. That cannot be denied, but you're probably one of those guys that thinks his "eyes" reveals the truth more than the data.

To be honest, I'm just fascinated by your logic. Up until your Kaepernick thread, I can't recall ever reading an argument of your's and thinking, "such sound logic that I can agree with."
This post was edited on 10/4/15 at 9:45 pm
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10397 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 9:44 pm to
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But you can also argue he's 30 or below in NFL


Please list the 30 you think could be argued. Please.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15566 posts
Posted on 10/4/15 at 9:51 pm to
Can't really compare QB ratings with guys from different era's since most of Rodgers career is played during the more rules friendly passing era.


Brett Favre 3x NFL MVP and even his QB rating during that time was probably sub 100.
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