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re: Where do the Warriors fit historically if they win the title this year
Posted on 4/15/16 at 8:22 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 4/15/16 at 8:22 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:thats more what the bulls where until 1991. the warriors had at least won a title in the modern NBA unlike phoenix or sacramento/kansas city/cincinatti/rochester
Right now, the Warriors are what the Suns of the mid-2000s or Kings of the early 2000s would have been had they closed the deal and won a title: A franchise that was irrelevant for decades who came out of nowhere to dominate with great offense for several years.
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 8:23 pm
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 8:50 pm to 13SaintTiger
I.
LA Minnesota Mikan era
Los Angeles Wilt/Baylor/West
Los Angeles Kareem Magic
Los Angeles Shaq Kobe
II.
Boston Russell Cousy era went on and on.
Boston with some 6 9" center who could shoot. later coached them.
Boston Larry/MCHale Chief era.
III.
Chicago MJ
IV
San Antonio current big dog
ABA Gervin/Dampier
V Philadelphia championships in many eras I give them points for so many decades
Joe Fulks. Wilt, Barry. Curry
VI Detroit Isiah Rodman
VII Miami LeBron D Wade
Posted on 4/15/16 at 8:52 pm to WestCoastAg
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Or even Pistons or Knicks?
i still dont see how the knicks or pistons are just unquestionably higher on the all time list than the warriors. their resumes are pretty comparable
They're not...
But Miami fan putting the Heat in the Top 5? That franchise can barely legally drink now and did its only damage the last 10 years.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:03 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
They're not...
But Miami fan putting the Heat in the Top 5? That franchise can barely legally drink now and did its only damage the last 10 years.
I'm not a Miami fan.
I named 5 franchises better than the Warriors. Read the thread.
There age helps them in the fact that they have been to 5 finals and won 3.
They have been relevant for awhile.
You are a joke.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:04 pm to 13SaintTiger
quote:and detroit and philly are pretty comparable and the warriors are higher than the knicks
I named 5 franchises better than the Warriors.
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:19 pm to WestCoastAg
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and detroit and philly are pretty comparable and the warriors are higher than the knicks
What part don't you get about being ranked 20th in win percentage and being irrelevant for 45 YEARS?
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:20 pm to 13SaintTiger
quote:detroit is 19th in win percentage and was irrelevant for the first 40 years of their history. funny how that doesn't apply to them though
What part don't you get about being ranked 20th in win percentage and being irrelevant for 45 YEARS?
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:32 pm to 13SaintTiger
Your post about Miami...and you put them in the Top 5...is and was the joke.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:44 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Your post about Miami...and you put them in the Top 5...is and was the joke.
My goodness you are retarded. I named 5 franchises better than the Warriors, not a TOP 5 list. Even if I did, Miami would be debatable at 5 in any serious sports talk.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:45 pm to 13SaintTiger
quote:debatable
I named 5 franchises better than the Warriors
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:46 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
detroit is 19th in win percentage and was irrelevant for the first 40 years of their history. funny how that doesn't apply to them though
Detroit has been relevant for the past 30 years. I'm sorry you can't comprehend that the Warriors haven't.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:46 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
debatable
No it isn't. At all.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:50 pm to 13SaintTiger
quote:
No it isn't. At all.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:52 pm to WestCoastAg
The joke is your thread bro. No one agreed with you.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:53 pm to 13SaintTiger
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Detroit has been relevant for the past 30 years
detroit was relevant in the late 80s and the mid 2000s. you know how many winning seasons they had between 1991 and 2001? 3. you know how many winning seasons theyve had since 2009? 1, this year
detroit was relevant between 1985 and 1990 and 2001 and 2009 but outside of that has been pretty fricking shitty as a franchise. its hilarious that you think they are this clear cut better franchise even given you opinion on the warriors
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:54 pm to 13SaintTiger
jesus, for the billion time i dont think the warriors ARE a top 5 franchise. just that they have as much of an argument as a franchise like the pistons and the sixers and the knicks
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:18 pm to 13SaintTiger
quote:
Miami
quote:
13SaintTiger
Would explain it
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:27 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
detroit was relevant in the late 80s and the mid 2000s. you know how many winning seasons they had between 1991 and 2001? 3. you know how many winning seasons theyve had since 2009? 1, this year detroit was relevant between 1985 and 1990 and 2001 and 2009 but outside of that has been pretty fricking shitty as a franchise. its hilarious that you think they are this clear cut better franchise even given you opinion on the warriors
If we're using this argument, then the Blazers or heaven forbid, the Rockets are top 5 material. If we're objectively speaking and not being prisoners of the moment, both teams have been relevant for a long time. The Rockets have 2 titles. The Blazers have one and a few appearences.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:31 pm to theducks
its just that the pistons in particular were shitty for such a long time and have had moments of excellence where they go and win a title but then go back to shite. its funny to use the winning percentage argument and years of irrelevance as a thing against the warriors in one sentence, and then turn around and try to pimp up the pistons. the pistons were irrelevant for the first 40 years of their existence until they drafted isaiah thomas. the warriors are 20th in winning percentage, the pistons are 19th.
the pistons really havent been consistently relevant for the past 30 years and thats not a knock against them. the only three historically consistent franchises in the NBAs history are the lakers, celtics, and spurs. outside of that a lot of teams like the knicks, and the sixers, and the bulls have had long stretches of irrelevance
the pistons really havent been consistently relevant for the past 30 years and thats not a knock against them. the only three historically consistent franchises in the NBAs history are the lakers, celtics, and spurs. outside of that a lot of teams like the knicks, and the sixers, and the bulls have had long stretches of irrelevance
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:37 pm to WestCoastAg
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lakers, celtics, and spurs
I think you're focusing too much on titles. The Suns have had a good product on the floor for much of the last 30 years. The Blazers never had great teams except a few, but they had a stretch of multiple playoff visits and their down years didn't last long. The Rockets got two titles and as Boom would say, only 3 (5) losing seasons since '82.
It's hard to pick because in the NBA, you could have good teams that win 50+ but unless you have a superstar or a few really good players in a good system (Pistons), you're not getting out of the 2nd round in the playoffs. And if we look back the last 25 years, the best players played in LAL (Magic to Kobe and Shaq), CHI (Jordan and then recently with Rose), SA (David then Duncan), HOU (Hakeem then T-Mac then Harden), DAL (Irrelevant until Dirk matured), etc, and those are the winning teams. The good teams become bad then good again until they hit on a guy. Then they become great.
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