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re: When will another heavyweight emerge to capture the public's attention?
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:14 am to IAmReality
Posted on 7/3/17 at 4:14 am to IAmReality
quote:Boxing is a global sport and Its more relevant than ever in tons of places
I don't ever see boxing becoming as relevant as it used to be.
There simply are too many other entertainment options, including more sports options than ever before
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Posted on 7/3/17 at 5:10 am to Marciano1
AJ put Wlad on the deck 3 times. 3.
No way Wilder stays on his feet all fight
No way Wilder stays on his feet all fight
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:15 am to engvol
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AJ put Wlad on the deck 3 times. 3.
No way Wilder stays on his feet all fight
Ross Purity, Corrie Sanders, Sam Peter and Lamon Brewster all decked him. Klitschko has never been able to take a punch but Manny Steward taught him how to use his jab and protect it. Flooring a 40 year old Klitschko means nothing when so many others have done so when he was in his prime.
Klitschko put AJ on his arse and nearly stopped him in front of his own fans.
As for Joshua-Wilder, there's a chance they knock each other out simultaneously. Both have little stamina and make a funny dance every time they get hit clean.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 9:17 am
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:18 am to BowlJackson
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Sorry to hear about Wilder fricking your gf.
Can't be easy getting seeing a jacked 6'7" black dude giving your girl the BBC.
I wonder if Wilder dresses like a woman when he gives it up to Haymon. Everyone knows that Haymon prefers men who wear makeup and skirts.
I know that sort of thing is supposed to be cool in 2017 but I find it disgusting.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 9:21 am
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:50 am to weagle99
Tony Yoka
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:51 am to LSUFanMizeWay
Joshua kills Wilder
Posted on 7/3/17 at 9:55 am to weagle99
I am not sure we will ever have another heavyweight to capture our attention (meaning average American sports fans, not boxing fans). Holyfield and Tyson types were amazing with power and speed. Today's heavyweight division is made up of strong, powerful, but slow and inartful super heavyweights. I believe the super heavyweights have killed the division.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 10:20 am
Posted on 7/3/17 at 10:10 am to go ta hell ole miss
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I believe the super heavyweights have killed the division.
Certainly makes it lackluster. If you're 6'2 215, you'll be at a big physical disadvantage against someone 6'7 265.
It's funny how if you outgrow the cruiser-weight division, you go from fighting dudes that are 195-200 to people in the 250's+
Posted on 7/3/17 at 10:17 am to Marciano1
Sounds like you've got an axe to grind.
Wilder is pretty legit. He's definitely box office.
Wilder is pretty legit. He's definitely box office.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 10:18 am
Posted on 7/3/17 at 10:26 am to Marciano1
I don't think it's a disadvantage to be shorter and lighter. Tyson (and Holyfield) showed that a smaller heavyweight can be faster, more powerful, have better stamina and techically advanced. All you give up is reach. If you fight in tight, you can negate that. Its just that all the great 6'0-6'3 athletes with freakish hand/foot speed are playing other sports.
The weight divisions do need to change. I don't care about any division under 160lbs..
The weight divisions do need to change. I don't care about any division under 160lbs..
Posted on 7/3/17 at 10:55 am to brmark70816
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Tyson (and Holyfield) showed that a smaller heavyweight can be faster, more powerful, have better stamina and techically advanced. All you give up is reach. If you fight in tight, you can negate that. Its just that all the great 6'0-6'3 athletes with freakish hand/foot speed are playing other sports.
Tyson and Holyfield weren't fighting huge euro heavyweights like you see in the sport today fight after fight. They fought Lennox Lewis and you saw what happened there. Now, all of the top heavyweights are around the size of Lewis.
A boxer that's 6'2 220 cannot hurt a fighter that's 6'6-6'8 and between 250-270 like they would against someone their own size. Also, they aren't able to take their punches over the course of a fight. It's a really big disadvantage.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 10:59 am
Posted on 7/3/17 at 10:58 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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Sounds like you've got an axe to grind.
No, I'm speaking the truth. Why has Wilder fought one live opponent in 38 fights and nearly a decade in the sport? He's got a glass jaw and has no skill whatsoever. He's sloppy in the ring....no technique.
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Wilder is pretty legit. He's definitely box office.
He's box office in Alabama. He doesn't draw anywhere else.
The crowd in Brooklyn was good but that's because of all the Polish fans that were there to support Szpilka, not Wilder.
Posted on 7/3/17 at 11:01 am to weagle99
Anthony Joshua can be good to great. He isn't there get but he can get there.
No heavyweight is perfect. You guys saying Tyson are crazy. He was as flawed as flawed gets in the ring.
Look what Lewis and holyfeild did to him
No heavyweight is perfect. You guys saying Tyson are crazy. He was as flawed as flawed gets in the ring.
Look what Lewis and holyfeild did to him
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 11:12 am
Posted on 7/3/17 at 12:26 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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norton? ernie shavers?
never heard of them
look it up and educate yourself then. too bad we have other morons here who are too lazy to do it. sadly that is the majority on this board. come on man u can do it!
Posted on 7/3/17 at 1:04 pm to Marciano1
I think you might need to look back at some of the Heavyweights they fought. Foreman was pretty big and incredibly strong. Bowe was 250+, Razor Ruddock, even Buster Douglas was a large guy (before he became super fat). I'm trying to remember names other than Holmes. I just mean that the division wasn't full of ex cruiserweights. Thats what made Spinks and Holyfield so rare, that they came up and won the belts.
Btw, Lewis is probably the greatest Heavyweight ever. But he ducked Holyfield and Tyson for a decade before they were too old to fight him. If he caught them young, those fights would have been drastically different. I still remember Lewis being knocked out by McCall, who wasn't a big fighter..
Btw, Lewis is probably the greatest Heavyweight ever. But he ducked Holyfield and Tyson for a decade before they were too old to fight him. If he caught them young, those fights would have been drastically different. I still remember Lewis being knocked out by McCall, who wasn't a big fighter..
Posted on 7/3/17 at 2:06 pm to brmark70816
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I think you might need to look back at some of the Heavyweights they fought. Foreman was pretty big and incredibly strong. Bowe was 250+, Razor Ruddock, even Buster Douglas was a large guy (before he became super fat). I'm trying to remember names other than Holmes. I just mean that the division wasn't full of ex cruiserweights. Thats what made Spinks and Holyfield so rare, that they came up and won the belts.
Btw, Lewis is probably the greatest Heavyweight ever. But he ducked Holyfield and Tyson for a decade before they were too old to fight him. If he caught them young, those fights would have been drastically different. I still remember Lewis being knocked out by McCall, who wasn't a big fighter..
There were occasional "big" heavyweights. But now, being a giant is the norm. Big difference.
It's like before the late 2000s, you had QBs here and there that would throw for 4,000 yards yards. Now, you have 8-12 per season putting up those numbers.
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 7/3/17 at 2:10 pm to brmark70816
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Btw, Lewis is probably the greatest Heavyweight ever.
great for his time but hardly best ever. puhleeeeeeeeeeze
Posted on 7/3/17 at 2:28 pm to Fat Bastard
Lewis avenged every loss he ever had and aged wonderfully. He actually got better as he got older, which is just freaky. He also left on the top and ruled the division. Hard to find a flaw, other than the division was pretty weak and Wladamir came along a couple of years after, so they missed each other. Lewis is definitely up there..
Posted on 7/3/17 at 7:44 pm to Marciano1
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When Wilder fights a live opponent, you'll know that Haymon is ready to collect.
I agree.
I wish they would split the Heavy weight Division.
Make a Heavyweight limit of 225 and a Super Heavy for over 225.
Marciano1....what do you think of Shannon Briggs? I wouldn't mind seeing him get a shot at Joshua or Wilder.....Lets go Champ!
This post was edited on 7/3/17 at 11:15 pm
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