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What is your opinion of Jon Gruden as a coach?
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:24 pm
He was 38-26 at Oakland and 57-55 at Tampa Bay. When you put those numbers together his overall winning percentage is right at 54%. Despite these average numbers, he's among the most coveted unavailable head coaching candidates on the market every single year.
Yeah, he won a Super Bowl in 2002, but let's not act like that Super Bowl was his. That was Tony Dungy's system and roster that he inherited. He turned that franchise into a viable commodity. Gruden came in, went 12-4 his first year and won the Super Bowl, and then preceded to slowly sink the franchise that Dungy had built up. Take out that first year and Gruden is 45-51 with the Buccaneers. Those aren't exactly Vince Lombardi numbers.
Maybe I'm being too harsh. What say you guys?
Yeah, he won a Super Bowl in 2002, but let's not act like that Super Bowl was his. That was Tony Dungy's system and roster that he inherited. He turned that franchise into a viable commodity. Gruden came in, went 12-4 his first year and won the Super Bowl, and then preceded to slowly sink the franchise that Dungy had built up. Take out that first year and Gruden is 45-51 with the Buccaneers. Those aren't exactly Vince Lombardi numbers.
Maybe I'm being too harsh. What say you guys?
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:26 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:26 pm to RollTide1987
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Maybe I'm being too harsh. What say you guys?
He gets overrated.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:27 pm to RollTide1987
This thread would have been lit 8 years ago.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:27 pm to RollTide1987
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Yeah, he won a Super Bowl in 2002, but let's not act like that Super Bowl was his. That was Tony Dungy's system and roster that he inherited.
But then you could argue that the Raiders team he beat in the Super Bowl was his system.
ETA: But with that said, he's a decent coach who gets an inflated status because of his personality.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:27 pm to RollTide1987
He's Jason Garrett with a random SB title from a team he had zero hand in building tossed into the middle of his career.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:29 pm to RollTide1987
Underrated. Made crappy rich Gannon into a very very legit qb.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:30 pm to RollTide1987
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RollTide1987
You are by far the worst poster on this site
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:30 pm to Broski
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But then you could argue that the Raiders team he beat in the Super Bowl was his system.
Which might explain why the score was so lopsided. 49-21 I believe was the final tally in that game. He knew absolutely everything about the Raiders and used that to his advantage.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:31 pm to Jcorye1
I'll always be his biggest fan because of his years with the Raiders. I loved those teams he built. Everyone laughed when he went hard after Rich Gannon, and we all saw how that turned out. I think he's a great coach.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:32 pm to AlbertMeansWell
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You are by far the worst poster on this site
Worst. Best. What does it matter when you're a known commodity?
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:32 pm to RollTide1987
Wasn't Callahan accused of throwing that SB b/c he was pissed at Davis?
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:32 pm to RollTide1987
Vol lock.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:32 pm to RLDSC FAN
Gannon was crap. Make no mistake about it. Gruden turned him into a stud.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:33 pm to RollTide1987
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Yeah, he won a Super Bowl in 2002, but let's not act like that Super Bowl was his. That was Tony Dungy's system and roster that he inherited
how many super bowls did Dungy win with that roster?
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:33 pm to RollTide1987
He's strictly an offensive-centric coach but did revive the Oakland Raiders to contenders for a short period and coached a Jeff Garcia-Buccaneers team to the NFC playoffs when most of that 2002 defense crew was aging/gone. His HC life was short but he did coach his teams well and completed what Tony Dungy started yet couldn't accomplish. Great coaching mind, very smart and dedicated, photographic memory-type when it comes to football nomenclature and strategy.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:36 pm to RollTide1987
He's right behind Ditka as far as overrated.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:36 pm to RollTide1987
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Which might explain why the score was so lopsided. 49-21 I believe was the final tally in that game. He knew absolutely everything about the Raiders and used that to his advantage.
Right, so now the question is if you think any mediocre coach other than Gruden at that time takes the Bucs to the Super Bowl and if they do, do they beat a Gruden coached Raiders team?
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:38 pm to Broski
He's out of touch with today's game no matter what you think he used to be
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