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re: Westbrook triple double on 100% shooting
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:59 am to TigerBait1127
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:59 am to TigerBait1127
quote:Just food for thought!!!
Even his assists are bull shite. He averages like 3 more assists per game at home than on the road. The OKC stat guys inflate his assist numbers.
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:01 am to redfishfan
Yeah. Harden held the record for most turnovers in a season. Both have broke that record with Harden holding a pretty substantial lead.
Both will break Maravich's record for per game. Was 5.0
WB 5.4
Harden 5.8
Both will break Maravich's record for per game. Was 5.0
WB 5.4
Harden 5.8
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:13 am to shel311
PTM speaks for himself. I don't speak for him and he doesn't speak for me. He knows his stuff and is entitled to his own opinion.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:18 am to StlPoke
This place is legit retarded when it comes to rocket fans and Westbrook. Dude is doing something that EVERYBODY said would probably not ever be done again. But his rebounds are different along with his assists. 
His team legit has nobody on it but will make the playoffs in the much better conference. He should win MVP.
His team legit has nobody on it but will make the playoffs in the much better conference. He should win MVP. 
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:18 am to Boomshockalocka
The hatred and/or jealousy from Houston fans towards Russ on here is hilarious.
I would tip my hat to Harden in a heartbeat if he does win the award.
I would tip my hat to Harden in a heartbeat if he does win the award.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:18 am to TigerBait1127
quote:
Cool Now create the argument, with support, that it is happening with Westbrook. I've already given reasonable explanations for the difference They also, shockingly, score more at home and shoot a significantly higher percentage at home. He plays more minutes at home. fricking crazy that these would contribute to a difference in home/away splits
Here's what I found. I looked up the past 3 seasons for both Harden and Westbrook. I also looked up Harden with OKC.
Harden:
10.7 home
11.7 road
7.2 home
7.1 road
7.1 home
6.9 road
Harden w/ OKC:
4.2 home
3.2 road
Westbrook:
11.2 home
9.4 road
10.9 home
9.9 road
9.6 home
7.6 road
Westbrook has 1 to 2 more assists per game at home with OKC than he does on the road each year. Harden when he was with OKC averaged 1 assist more at home with OKC than on the road.
Yet in Houston, Harden averages virtually the same at home as on the road... and this season he actually averages more on the road than at home.
It's well known in NBA circles that Houston is stingy with their stats (they like to be accurate) whereas OKC tends to selectively inflate some stats a bit.
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 10:28 am
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:20 am to suavecito80
Last night, he becam the first player in NBA history to go 100% from the field AND free throw line while having a triple-double. In 27 mins.
BUT THOSE OKC STAT KEEPERS THO...
BUT THOSE OKC STAT KEEPERS THO...
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:22 am to suavecito80
Remember preseason when all the OKC fans were saying HOU was gonna be the better team this year than OKC because HOU had so much more talent??
Yea I don't remember that either.
Fact OKC was picked to finish ahead of HOU
Fact OKC had 3 non Westbrook players listed above the 2nd rockets player on the espn player rankings.
Fact OKC is nowhere near HOU in the standings. Or net rating or point differential
Fact Hardens orchestration of the CC offense is the reason for that.
Yea I don't remember that either.
Fact OKC was picked to finish ahead of HOU
Fact OKC had 3 non Westbrook players listed above the 2nd rockets player on the espn player rankings.
Fact OKC is nowhere near HOU in the standings. Or net rating or point differential
Fact Hardens orchestration of the CC offense is the reason for that.
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 10:25 am
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:23 am to okietiger
Nobody is saying Westbrook isn't good or that the team isn't better at home than on the road.
I'm just saying OKC's statkeepers do help him a bit. That's just reality.
They are the difference in him averaging a triple double and not averaging a triple double.
I'm just saying OKC's statkeepers do help him a bit. That's just reality.
They are the difference in him averaging a triple double and not averaging a triple double.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:24 am to okietiger
Great game.
But you don't win MVP for beating up on philly. Over the last two games looked at together his MVP chances have decreased. Due to the GSW game.
But you don't win MVP for beating up on philly. Over the last two games looked at together his MVP chances have decreased. Due to the GSW game.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:24 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:My bad, I didn't realize that we speak for ourselves while saying "we" in every point we make. Silly me!
PTM speaks for himself. I don't speak for him and he doesn't speak for me. He knows his stuff and is entitled to his own opinion.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:26 am to shel311
We is me and others who are like minded and agree. If we have different viewpoints he is clearly not part of the 'we' that I'm talking about.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:26 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:Do we trust the accuracy of this? I assume we do since it's said as FACT?
Fact OKC had 3 non Westbrook players listed above the 2nd rockets player on the espn player rankings
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:29 am to okietiger
quote:
The hatred and/or jealousy from Houston fans towards Russ on here is hilarious.
I would tip my hat to Harden in a heartbeat if he does win the award.
This. It's crazy how emotionally invested rocketfan is in this year's MVP race
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:29 am to shel311
The "fact" is the that the players were ranked higher.
I mean whether or not we wanna nitpick every players spot on the ranking. Nah not interested in doing that. As you can see it's not the main part of my argument. It's very minor in fact.
I mean whether or not we wanna nitpick every players spot on the ranking. Nah not interested in doing that. As you can see it's not the main part of my argument. It's very minor in fact.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:30 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
PTM speaks for himself. I don't speak for him and he doesn't speak for me. He knows his stuff and is entitled to his own opinion.
You:
quote:
PTM just posted it as a little food for thought ie something to consider.
Sure seems like you did
quote:
remember calling it 'food for thought' ie something to consider. That's hardly stating it as fact.
"hey we know these numbers can be inflated and it looks like Russ's could be"
Something like that. That's the tone we using here
Derp
quote:
We is me and others who are like minded and agree. If we have different viewpoints he is clearly not part of the 'we' that I'm talking about.
He's clearly the "we" you're talking about
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 10:33 am
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:32 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:It's because the same arguments the media used that favored Curry 2 seasons ago against Harden are being used against Harden this year. And the same arguments in favor of Harden 2 seasons ago were dismissed by the media and are now being used in favor of Westbrook this year.
This. It's crazy how emotionally invested rocketfan is in this year's MVP race
That pisses Rockets fans off. If the media wanted to give Curry the MVP 2 seasons ago, cool we can live with that. But don't move the goalposts and make the exact opposite argument from the one made 2 seasons ago.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:34 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:Is that accurate? Do we trust that rating?
The "fact" is the that the players were ranked higher.
quote:So if you think others are wrong, that questions the integrity of the rankings, and these could have been wrong as well, rendering your point moot.
I mean whether or not we wanna nitpick every players spot on the ranking. Nah not interested in doing that. As you can see it's not the main part of my argument. It's very minor in fact.
Do we trust the accuracy of that set of rankings? It's a yes or no question.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:36 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:When has NBA MVP voting EVER been consistent?
It's because the same arguments the media used that favored Curry 2 seasons ago against Harden are being used against Harden this year. And the same arguments in favor of Harden 2 seasons ago were dismissed by the media and are now being used in favor of Westbrook this year.
That pisses Rockets fans off. If the media wanted to give Curry the MVP 2 seasons ago, cool we can live with that. But don't move the goalposts and make the exact opposite argument from the one made 2 seasons ago.
It's irrelevant, no clue why anyone would waste 1 second worrying about whether this guy or that guy will win it.
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:38 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:Your "we" list keeps getting smaller
PTM speaks for himself. I don't speak for him and he doesn't speak for me. He knows his stuff and is entitled to his own opinion.
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