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Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:24 pm to shel311
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Sure, but I don't think it could explain something like a 9% difference in makes at the rim on easy fast breaks
I would also think Westbrook benefits more from fastbreaks than Curry. I did read the articles but I don't put too much stake into stats like that because there are just too many factors that could skew them. My eyes tell me Westbrook is much better at getting to the rim. My eyes tell me Westbrook takes bad shots down there all the time. My eyes tell me if I wanted one of them driving with the game on the line that I would take Westbrook in a heartbeat. If Curry could really get to the rim like Westbrook or Kyrie he would average 40.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:25 pm to Epic Cajun
Curry is sick off the glass. He's a magician. He can shake guys. He's great.
But to me, it looks like he picks his spots. And GS's spacing is amazing and defenses "blow coverage" like it's their job.
IMO, Kyrie would be much better at getting to the rim when a team is actively trying to stop that from happening.
Now obviously getting to the rim isn't required...I'm just saying. And I also like Kyrie's ability to get that shot off in a few places that he really likes now.
Give me Kyrie.
But to me, it looks like he picks his spots. And GS's spacing is amazing and defenses "blow coverage" like it's their job.
IMO, Kyrie would be much better at getting to the rim when a team is actively trying to stop that from happening.
Now obviously getting to the rim isn't required...I'm just saying. And I also like Kyrie's ability to get that shot off in a few places that he really likes now.
Give me Kyrie.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:27 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Yea. Coach nick with a great 12 min breakdown.
You do realize nobody in the basketball coaching community cares what Coach Nick has to say about anything. Half Court hoops is a much better Youtube channel by the way.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:28 pm to redfishfan
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re: Westbrook, kyrie, or curry for the last shot Posted by redfishfan online on 3/24/17 at 12:47 pm to shel311 quote: Curry doesn't lack either, fwiw. Curry def lacks the ability to get to the rim. He can get to the rim but he isn't close to good at it.
This is why I keep coming back to the MSB. It lulls you to sleep and then BAM someone pulls out a fire hot take like that and makes my day
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:28 pm to redfishfan
quote:Right, and THIS is why he's not as good as Curry or Irving, for that matter at it.
My eyes tell me Westbrook takes bad shots down there all the time.
quote:Ok, but just know he has more of a chance to miss that shot, factually speaking.
My eyes tell me if I wanted one of them driving with the game on the line that I would take Westbrook in a heartbeat
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:29 pm to redfishfan
it may be a better site. That doesn't invalidate coach nicks video. He merely charted every drive. And reported the results. And they aren't all that impressive TBH.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:30 pm to redfishfan
I don't think anyone would take issue with ranking Curry at 3rd re getting to the rim. It's pretending he's not good at all is what has everyone riled up.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:30 pm to redfishfan
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He has to take more difficult shots at the rim than Curry does
I don't want to burst your bubble here, but wouldn't that imply that Curry is better at getting to the rim than Irving?
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:30 pm to Boomshockalocka
If Westbrook is about average at finishing at the rim, then Curry isn't near as good at shooting 3s a shot people think.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:32 pm to shel311
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Ok, but just know he has more of a chance to miss that shot, factually speaking.
This is where you are wrong. Curry cannot get to the rim as much as Westbrook can and that's why he takes less attempts.
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Right, and THIS is why he's not as good as Curry or Irving, for that matter at it.
No that means he makes bad decisions down there. I wish there was a way to poll NBA coaches on this because it would be a blowout in favor of Westbrook. Curry is obviously the better shooter. Curry in your opinion is better at getting to the rim and finishing. Then how the hell is Curry not averaging 40?
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:32 pm to shel311
quote:And Curry's 3 point percentage isn't at the top of the list. Does that mean he isn't as good at 3 point shots?
Right, and THIS is why he's not as good as Curry or Irving, for that matter at it.
Or is it because he takes more and harder shots?
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:33 pm to redfishfan
Just took a cursory glance at some of coach nicks twitter followers. WOW is all I can say. A whos who you could call it. So to say no one cares. Well that's a farce.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:33 pm to wildtigercat93
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I don't want to burst your bubble here, but wouldn't that imply that Curry is better at getting to the rim than Irving?
No that would mean Curry picks his spots and why he has less attempts.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:34 pm to ReauxlTide222
He has been average at best every year. If you trust coach nicks numbers. Meanwhile curry is the best three point shooter of all time.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:35 pm to redfishfan
quote:Based on what? There's nothing you have to suggest I'm wrong.
This is where you are wrong.
quote:Right, and THIS is why he's not as good as Curry or Irving, for that matter at it.
No that means he makes bad decisions down there.
quote:Can you at least concede that Curry is really freaking good at finishing at the rim?
Curry in your opinion is better at getting to the rim and finishing.
quote:Because he doesn't shoot the ball 25+ times per game.
Then how the hell is Curry not averaging 40?
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:35 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Kyrie
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:35 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:Curry is ranked 27th and under 40% from 3 this year. What's that say about his 3 point shooting?
I don't want to burst your bubble here, but wouldn't that imply that Curry is better at getting to the rim than Irving?
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:36 pm to redfishfan
quote:Again, which makes him better at finishing at the rim.
No that would mean Curry picks his spots and why he has less attempts.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:36 pm to redfishfan
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No that would mean Curry picks his spots and why he has less attempts.
So making better decisions makes him a worse player
Got it.
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