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re: Westbrook, kyrie, or curry for the last shot
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:05 pm to shel311
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:05 pm to shel311
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Getting to the rim a whole lot but missing a lot of those does not make you better at it than a guy who does so more efficiently, fwiw.
He has to take more difficult shots at the rim than Curry does. I understand the point you are trying to make but if Westbrook got the looks at the rim Curry took then he would be around 90%. He's much more explosive.
Edit- So according to your logic Curry is better at getting to the rim and finishing than LBJ. Wow
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 1:07 pm
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Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:07 pm to shel311
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Irving and Westbrook are taking much more difficult shots than Curry is at the rim.
That's a point against them, not for them.
Indeed, and I'd even posit that, as far as degree of difficulty, Curry's shot-making ability is on par with Westbrook's. Kyrie's finishing is otherworldly, but Curry is ridiculous at the lip of the cup.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:08 pm to redfishfan
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Curry def lacks the ability to get to the rim. He can get to the rim but he isn't close to good at it.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:08 pm to redfishfan
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Irving and Westbrook are taking much more difficult shots than Curry is at the rim.
I could find a lot more of these because he does shite like this all the time
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:09 pm to redfishfan
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if Westbrook got the looks at the rim Curry took then he would be around 90%. He's much more explosive.
It's not about being explosive when we're discussing finishing at the rim. Sure, Russ will finish with dynamite, and it's impressive as hell, but Curry's english off the glass is, frankly, elite.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:09 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Curry's shot-making ability is on par with Westbrook's. Kyrie's finishing is otherworldly, but Curry is ridiculous at the lip of the cup.
I would say Westbrook isn't on Curry's level as far shot making. At the rim though Westbrook is just more explosive. He's quicker and can jump higher. He finishes drives that Curry would have no chance of finishing.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:09 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Kyrie for sure. His ability to get his own shot on every part of the floor puts him ahead of the other 2 IMO. There are a few spots where he isn't missing this year and he can get to the basket with the best of them.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:10 pm to redfishfan
quote:He doesn't HAVE to but I see what you're saying.
He has to take more difficult shots at the rim than Curry does
And Irving is actually on a good team, so he has even less of a reason to "have" to take those shots at the rim like Westbrook.
quote:No, just no.
but if Westbrook got the looks at the rim Curry took then he would be around 90%
quote:1. It's not my logic, it's the facts
Edit- So according to your logic Curry is better at getting to the rim and finishing than LBJ. Wow
2. Why would my logic make him better than Lebron at the rim, you lost me there?
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:12 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Horry
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:12 pm to shel311
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1. It's not my logic, it's the facts 2. Why would my logic make him better than Lebron at the rim, you lost me there?
Because Curry's percentage is #1 according to your chart making him better than LBJ at the rim.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:14 pm to shel311
quote:He does when a defense is defending for their lives.
Curry doesn't lack either, fwiw.
He's very good at finishing and all that shite...but he picks his spots. I trust Kyrie to get to the basket and finish more than I do Curry in a last second situation.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:14 pm to redfishfan
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:16 pm to redfishfan
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Westbrook isn't on Curry's level as far shot making.
Correct.
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At the rim though Westbrook is just more explosive.
Correct.
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He's quicker and can jump higher.
Debateable on the quickness in the paint. That's tight quarters, and Curry's adroit at finding his way among the trees.
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He finishes drives that Curry would have no chance of finishing.
And Curry finishes takes that Westbrook wouldn't even think to attempt, not to mention can get his shot off around the rim from a few more angles.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:17 pm to dabigfella
Because alot of people seem to put him in the kobe category of having that killer instinct
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:18 pm to redfishfan
quote:I don't know who the chart does or does not, to be honest. IT was taken from 1 of the 3 articles, which fwiw, did you read any of the 3 talking about how great Steph is at the rim?
Because Curry's percentage is #1 according to your chart making him better than LBJ at the rim.
Also, Lebron shoots 70%+ at the rim every season.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:19 pm to shel311
Restricted area shooting could be skewed by fast break points, which doesn't really equate to "getting to the rim".
I don't think that Curry is bad at the rim, just saying that the figure you posted doesn't mean that he's the 'best' either.
To the OP, I'd pick either Kyrie or Curry. Probably Kyrie.
I don't think that Curry is bad at the rim, just saying that the figure you posted doesn't mean that he's the 'best' either.
To the OP, I'd pick either Kyrie or Curry. Probably Kyrie.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:20 pm to Epic Cajun
If you look at the link you see curry was #1 among guards at the rim last year. Westbrook 18th.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:20 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:Sure, but I don't think it could explain something like a 9% difference in makes at the rim on easy fast breaks.
Restricted area shooting could be skewed by fast break points, which doesn't really equate to "getting to the rim".
I don't think that Curry is bad at the rim, just saying that the figure you posted doesn't mean that he's the 'best' either.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:22 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:Your video said that?
If you look at the link you see curry was #1 among guards at the rim last year.
There ya go. Again, this stems from the poster saying Curry lacks that ability.
We can split hairs on Curry/Kyrie/Russ, but Curry most certainly does NOT lack that ability. Even if you want to put him #3 on that list, he's still really, really good at finishing at the rim.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 1:24 pm to redfishfan
quote:FYI, right above the graph in the article:
Because Curry's percentage is #1 according to your chart making him better than LBJ at the rim.
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Curry ranks first in the league in field goal percentage from the restricted area among guards who attempt at least four such shots per game:
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