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re: US Open might as well be another tour event

Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:34 pm to
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Are people honestly arguing that the difficulty of the US Open isnt what has set it apart over its long history?


That's the point we aren't dealing with those of us who want to keep the standards of the TOUGHEST golf tournament on earth. No we want Zurich Open scores because watching pros struggle to make par is boring.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139852 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:34 pm to
You are not only condescending but ignorant now. It's coming across as you and you alone is the authority on the USGA. It's a bad look
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:37 pm to
*Zurich Classic
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27431 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

USGA couldn't control is the weather and the course was wet.


So this is the only time the US Open was played under "wet" conditions? This arguemnt trying to justify the bellow facts is really just silly at this point.

quote:

31 players under par. A Clear record for an Open by a long shot.

11 players finished -8 or lower. Open record by a long long shot.


Its the course. All the hand waving about the weather is just that. Did it make the course, even more, player friendly than if it were dry? Of course it did but the course was already player friendly to begin with.

Just hope the USGA learns from this.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

You are not only condescending but ignorant now. It's coming across as you and you alone is the authority on the USGA. It's a bad look


I can promise you those who have actually been apart of the USGA in the past are fricking embarrassed by this past weekend. Honestly, the scores don't reflect the intention of the US Open. Condescending, no im just in the face of those that applaud the USGA for not doing their job.
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 8:41 pm
Posted by 1965Tiger
Member since Mar 2017
537 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:41 pm to
I wonder how much TV ratings influence the USGA when it comes to course selection and course setup?

Fox needs all the help they can get. Just a guess on my part, but I bet Fox prefers a winning score of -16 at Erin Hills to say +2 at Oakmont.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

So this is the only time the US Open was played under "wet" conditions? This arguemnt trying to justify the bellow facts is really just silly at this point.


Congressional?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60209 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:43 pm to
But the winning score wasn't +2 at Oakmont
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27431 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

Congressional?


2 players -8 or under compared to 11 at Erin Hills.

7 players from Erin Hills would have finished higher than the 2nd place finisher at Congressional. 11 players would have equaled or surpassed the 2nd place finisher.
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 8:49 pm
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:49 pm to
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Today's winner was 1 stoke/day better than last years at Oakmont. And conditions were soft.

I don't see what the big deal is here.


Golfer



This is the type of morons I'm forced to deal with here



Now just frick off
Posted by Mr. Blutarski
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Oct 2012
1760 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:50 pm to
Who says the baseline is even par? Nobody, including the USGA. If this golf wasn't exciting, I don't know what to tell you. I personally enjoyed watching these players bomb it off the tee and not having to hack it out sideways when they missed a fairway. To each his own.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18521 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:52 pm to
You don't understand the difference between strokes and score relative to par. You're the moron in this situation, you mouthbreathing retard.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60209 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:52 pm to
DJ finished at 276, Koepka 272....
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

Fox needs all the help they can get. Just a guess on my part, but I bet Fox prefers a winning score of -16 at Erin Hills to say +2 at Oakmont.


Gents why do you continue to lie about scores and history. Furthermore if FOX doesn't like the product then don't bid on it?

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:53 pm to
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7 players from Erin Hills would have finished higher than the 2nd place finisher at Congressional. 11 players would have equaled or surpassed the 2nd place finisher.


Uh what?

2nd place at Congressional was 276. Same as today.

8 players in 2011 were under 280.

8 players in 2017 were under 280.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27431 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

Who says the baseline is even par? Nobody, including the USGA. If this golf wasn't exciting, I don't know what to tell you. I personally enjoyed watching these players bomb it off the tee and not having to hack it out sideways when they missed a fairway. To each his own.


So what makes the US Open unique compared to other non majors if thats the direction its heading? That's the whole point of the thread.

I enjoy watching that type of golf as well but the US Open is supposed to differentiate itself, and has through its history, by being a brutal, unforgiving tourney.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27431 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

Uh what?

2nd place at Congressional was 276. Same as today.

8 players in 2011 were under 280.

8 players in 2017 were under 280.


So strokes are "equal" from course to course now?


Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

This is the type of morons I'm forced to deal with here


Let's recap.

You can't spell the most notable course in Florida.

You don't know the name of the PGA Tour stop in Louisiana.

You don't know how scores relative to par can differ from year to year.

You incorrectly assumed I'd never been a part of or attended a "traditional" US Open.

quote:

Now just frick off


Lol k
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

You don't understand the difference between strokes and score relative to par. You're the moron in this situation, you mouthbreathing retard.


Of course I do but you're not going to discredit me here. Name calling without bringing factual information makes you another lackey on the board just trying to compensate for your misunderstanding of the history at the US Open.

Again, 31 players under par and that's suppose to be completely ignored for the ratings. Go fish.
Posted by 1965Tiger
Member since Mar 2017
537 posts
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:58 pm to
I suggest you brush up on your reading comprehension skills.

On second thought, it's probably a lost cause.
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