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re: Tom Brady is now alone as the greatest NFL QB ever
Posted on 2/2/15 at 4:13 pm to Knocksville
Posted on 2/2/15 at 4:13 pm to Knocksville
But don't let the fact that Taylor was the 2 and big play guy for that team. Taylor was a better player returned all kicks and had RB who had over 800 yds usually rushing and receiving each.
Also Walls, Frank, and jones were getting huge numbers at the time for the era.
Also Walls, Frank, and jones were getting huge numbers at the time for the era.
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 4:15 pm
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Posted on 2/2/15 at 4:14 pm to DelU249
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2009 the colts were busted for piping in crowd noise...they went 14-0...are they cheaters...is manning's legacy tainted?
Crowd noise cheating =/= taping teams illegally. One is much more serious than the other.
Also I do not have Payton in my top 5 all time QBs either. Dude is a choke artist in the playoffs.
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give me a break...fricking air in a football. PEDs, piping in crowd noise, fricking up the field, you name it and teams across the league do it to get that extra advantage
I never said this was about deflategate.
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the 70s steelers were all roided to high hell, tainted? Do you know how deion sanders ended up a 49er? tainted. The colts were suspected of stealing signals post spy gate...tainted? Like deflated footballs it wasn't a question of whether they had them, I guess we can just apply the same standard and assume the easiest explanation is the correct one.
Everyone in the NFL uses roids, HGH, and other such stuff. Not as big of a deal.
From what Google tells me Deon Sanders played for the 49ers when I was 5 and had no idea football was even a thing so no I do not. Enlighten me on him.
And yes on the years the Colts stole signals if it was ever proven they did.
Again I am not discussing deflategate and did not bring it up.
Despite all of what you said you can not deny the Patriots would not have won the Super Bowl vs the Rams had they not cheated. They are an organization of cheaters and as such all of Brady's postseason success needs to be called into question. Despite being a great player no one sane can claim someone who has been proven to be part of a team that was blatantly cheating to that extent is a top 5 player. He is not the best QB ever. Not a top 5 QB ever. And it is debatable if he even should be in the top 10 QBs ever.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 4:19 pm to The7Sins
quote:oh really, please quantify the impact for me please
Crowd noise cheating =/= taping teams illegally
quote:and everyone was videotaping signals and deflating footballs. Video taping had just become against the rules, teams had been doing it since the beginning
Everyone in the NFL uses roids, HGH, and other such stuff. Not as big of a deal
quote:as penn jillette would say, "let's see your proof. show me the evidence. PROVE IT"
Despite all of what you said you can not deny the Patriots would not have won the Super Bowl vs the Rams had they not cheated
Posted on 2/2/15 at 4:23 pm to DelU249
if you were 5 when neon deion played for the niners, you were 11 when the patriots beat the rams in the best super bowl ever, xxxvi
the rams lost because ty law and the rest of the patriots secondary were jamming them up so badly at the line, martz's timing offense was worthless...they built the blueprint for stopping that offense and martz could never replicate his success elsewhere (it was really vermeil's offense with more power running that was the GSOT)
and if the patriots were familiar with the rams' defensive habits, it's because they played them earlier in the year down to the wire, and the rams were very unbeatable that year.
I watch every second of that game. The rams lost because they were soft, and they didn't know what to do with their timing disrupted...that, and martz didn't give marshall faulk the ball
the rams lost because ty law and the rest of the patriots secondary were jamming them up so badly at the line, martz's timing offense was worthless...they built the blueprint for stopping that offense and martz could never replicate his success elsewhere (it was really vermeil's offense with more power running that was the GSOT)
and if the patriots were familiar with the rams' defensive habits, it's because they played them earlier in the year down to the wire, and the rams were very unbeatable that year.
I watch every second of that game. The rams lost because they were soft, and they didn't know what to do with their timing disrupted...that, and martz didn't give marshall faulk the ball
Posted on 2/2/15 at 5:06 pm to DelU249
Can we stop all the BS with talk of taping teams illegally being mixed with talk of taping the rams pre Superbowl walk through.
The latter is an unsubstantiated rumor, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense given that the Superbowl teams don't prepare at the same facilities.
The latter is an unsubstantiated rumor, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense given that the Superbowl teams don't prepare at the same facilities.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 5:34 pm to okietiger
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He's alone, whether you hate him or not. What's wild is he may not be done.
He really was fortunate to be drafted by the Pats, and not someone like Buffalo, Detroit, or Miami.
He and Bill have been a great team, though.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 5:49 pm to Mephistopheles
Walkthroughs are at the game site.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 5:56 pm to The7Sins
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Despite all of what you said you can not deny the Patriots would not have won the Super Bowl vs the Rams had they not cheated. They are an organization of cheaters and as such all of Brady's postseason success needs to be called into question
What proof do you have that the Patriots cheated in that game? The whole taping of the walk throughs turned out to be an unsubstantiated claim by pissed off intern who was fired by the Pats. And if your inquiring that they pulled spygate crap during the game that was not outlawed until 2006 by the league.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:16 pm to TOKEN
quote:Why not? of course they could have, especially Rodgers.
Who thinks Rogers, Manning or Brees could win a Super Bowl with that NE team last night? I don't!
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:18 pm to The7Sins
quote:These 3 other teams who just recently got busted for similar things, but people only care about the Patriots doing it.
Except Brady has been on a team known for cheating
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:21 pm to The7Sins
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Despite all of what you said you can not deny the Patriots would not have won the Super Bowl vs the Rams had they not cheated.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 11:55 am to The7Sins
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Despite all of what you said you can not deny the Patriots would not have won the Super Bowl vs the Rams had they not cheated.
Wow.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 12:10 pm to okietiger
A bunch of idiots in here, brah 
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