re: Tom Brady is now alone as the greatest NFL QB ever

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Brady is great, but not sure if best ever just because he has 4 super bowl wins.

That's like saying Trent Dilfer was a better QB than Dan Marino because he won a super bowl.

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This is so tired.

Brady has insane stats and wins throughout a long career to pair with his 6 superbowls and 4 SB wins.

He has thrown like 7,000 passes and had 143 INTs. 2nd all-time in Pass Interception % behind Rodgers and like top 5 for TDs, comp %, yards, game winning drives, comebacks, QBR, etc.



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Just like Trent Dilfer, only good because his team won him Superbowls...

NFL
4× Super Bowl Champion (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLIX)
3× Super Bowl MVP (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XLIX)
6× AFC Champion (2001, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2011, 2014)
2× NFL MVP (2007, 2010)
2× AP First Team All-Pro (2007, 2010)
AP Second Team All-Pro (2005)
10× Pro Bowl (2001, 2004-2005, 2007, 2009-2014)
3× NFL passing touchdowns leader (2002, 2007, 2010)
2× NFL passing yards leader (2005, 2007)
Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year (2005)
Sporting News Sportsman of the Year (2004, 2007)
AP Male Athlete of the Year (2007)
2× NFL Offensive Player of the Year (2007, 2010)
3× AFC Offensive Player of the Year (2007, 2010, 2011)
AP NFL Comeback Player of the Year (2009)
PFWA NFL Comeback Player of the Year (2009)
New England Patriots all-time leader
(passing touchdowns, passing yards, pass completions, pass attempts, career wins)
NFL 2000s All-Decade Team

NFL Records
29 career playoff starts for quarterback
29 career playoff games for quarterback
9 career NFL conference championship appearances for quarterback
6 career NFL conference championship wins for quarterback
Most career Superbowl touchdown passes
Most first half pass completions in single Superbowl
Most pass completions in single Superbowl
12 career division titles for quarterback
21 career playoff wins for quarterback
Most career postseason passing yards
53 career playoff passing touchdowns[1]

College
2x Big Ten Champion
Rose Bowl (1998)
National Champion (1997)
Citrus Bowl (1999)
Orange Bowl (2000)

Bill led the Browns to a playoff win.

he was 36-44 at Cleveland. That playoff win was a wildcard spot. His last season he went 5-11 after starting 3-1.

Whoa now, don't be messin with TBradshaw. I really love him on the pregame. He's so natural that if he's not a great guy, then he's the world's greatest actor

Brady and Belicheck are both all time greats and both benefitted greatly from each other

Why can't people just accept that instead of wanting an either/or?

I suggest watching the football life on belichicks Browns


And the two parter where they followed him for the 09 season

I don't think anyone can watch that without coming away with a tremendous amount of respect for belichick.

Exactly. There's arguments to be made for several guys, but Brady is in that group

4x Super Bowl winner (T-1st All-Time)
3x Super Bowl MVP (T-1st All-Time)
2x NFL MVP

Regular Season:
53,258 pass yards (5th All-Time)
392 pass touchdowns (5th All-Time)
143 interceptions
95.9 QB rating (5th All-Time)

Playoffs:
7,345 pass yards (1st All-Time)
53 pass touchdowns (1st All-Time)
26 interceptions
89.0 QB rating (12th All-Time)
9 game-winning drives (1st All-Time)
6 comebacks (1st All-Time)

I think you could argue he has had the greatest career of any quarterback.

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not the sharpest tool in the shed

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he reminds me of my old master chief

brief shout out to master chief estep

an old salty guy, you think he's an idiot, but you underestimate his natural wit...honestly, I think he's smart and I think he gets pissed people call him stupid.

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Aaron Rodgers stands alone at 1.6.

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I really don't think people realize just how much separation there is between Rodgers and 2nd place in a lot of these categories.

SOmeone can correct me if I'm not exact on this, but I remember seeing a graphic in the playoffs for career TD:INT ratio, and 2nd/3rd/4th had the Bradys/Montanas, somewhere in the 2.5 or maybe 2.7:1 range, and Rodgers was around 4:1.

His TD% is just as astounding, 6.5%. Other than some older guys, all pre-1970 stuff, the next closest is Manning at 5.9%, that's a huge difference. If I recall, YPA, same thing.