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re: The NBA's most overrated player
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:19 am to shel311
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:19 am to shel311
Carmelo isn't overrated as an offensively skilled player because he can single handedly take over games. But he is overrated in that it's hard to build a championship team around him because he doesn't really make his teammates better.
You basically have to surround him with other isolation-type players because he doesn't garner the type of attention defensively like a Lebron or a Durant, and he doesn't really make the correct basketball play when he does get that kind of attention.
You basically have to surround him with other isolation-type players because he doesn't garner the type of attention defensively like a Lebron or a Durant, and he doesn't really make the correct basketball play when he does get that kind of attention.
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Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:20 am to xenythx
quote:I think everyone would agree on this as to their reason for listing him
But he is overrated in that it's hard to build a championship team around him because he doesn't really make his teammates better.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:21 am to Ford Frenzy
quote:Really? Michael Beasley as the 2nd option isn't bad?
and his teams weren't bad either
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:22 am to xenythx
quote:
Carmelo isn't overrated as an offensively skilled player
I'm not responding to you, just in general...I think people have a hard time differentiating how talented a guy is with how good a player he is.
Carmelo is one of the most talented players in the league, but he's not one of the best, and he's definitely overrated IMO.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:25 am to shel311
quote:plus Chalmers, Haslem, Q Rich...I'm not saying the team was good, but for as big a Superstar as Wade is labeled, you'd think he could do better than getting beat in the first round every time he doesn't have another HoF player
Really? Michael Beasley as the 2nd option isn't bad?
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:26 am to shel311
quote:100% accurate.
I think people have a hard time differentiating how talented a guy is with how good a player he is.
Carmelo is one of the most talented players in the league, but he's not one of the best, and he's definitely overrated IMO.
Rudy Gay is one of the most extreme examples of this disparity.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:27 am to Ford Frenzy
quote:Now compare that team to KG/Rondo/Allen/Pierce, and you expect Wade to be able to defeat them with Chalmers/Haslem?Richarson?
plus Chalmers, Haslem, Q Rich...I'm not saying the team was good
quote:That's like saying what did Kobe ever do without Shaq and then without Gasol?
but for as big a Superstar as Wade is labeled, you'd think he could do better than getting beat in the first round every time he doesn't have another HoF player
What did MJ ever do without Scottie?
Bird and Magic without the 5 or so HOFers they played with?
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:28 am to shel311
quote:there's a reason they played them in the first round
Now compare that team to KG/Rondo/Allen/Pierce, and you expect Wade to be able to defeat them with Chalmers/Haslem?Richarson?
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:28 am to Ford Frenzy
quote:Come on... Chalmers was a rookie/second year player. He was barely competent then.
plus Chalmers, Haslem, Q Rich...
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:29 am to shel311
quote:difference is, Wade had years in his prime to prove what he could do; whereas, the others you listed didn't
That's like saying what did Kobe ever do without Shaq and then without Gasol?
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:40 am to Ford Frenzy
quote:Because Wade had a subpar supporting cast?
there's a reason they played them in the first round
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:42 am to Ford Frenzy
quote:You realize Shaq left the Lakers when Kobe was 26 right? Right when he would enter his prime.
difference is, Wade had years in his prime to prove what he could do; whereas, the others you listed didn't
And if you don't think Wade "proved what he can do", I'm not sure what to tell you. His production speaks for itself. You building up Q/Rookie Chalmers/Haslem doesn't really help your cause.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:48 am to shel311
quote:well they finished 3rd in their division..behind Atlanta
Because Wade had a subpar supporting cast?
ETA: Charlotte and Washington are in that division, how awful
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 9:49 am
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:51 am to shel311
quote:didn't Kobe miss a lot of the season with an injury the year Shaq left?
You realize Shaq left the Lakers when Kobe was 26 right? Right when he would enter his prime.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:55 am to Ford Frenzy
quote:Again, because Wade had a subpar supporting cast.
well they finished 3rd in their division..behind Atlanta
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:56 am to Ford Frenzy
quote:No, in his prime, without HOFers alongside him, not getting out of the 1st round.
didn't Kobe miss a lot of the season with an injury the year Shaq left?
Is he overrated?
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:56 am to Ford Frenzy
quote:He played 3 years without Shaq before they got Gasol. And he hated it so much he demanded a trade.
didn't Kobe miss a lot of the season with an injury the year Shaq left?
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:57 am to shel311
well this is an overrated player thread and since Wade is hyped as a Superstar, I think a true superstar would have managed better with the supporting cast
Posted on 5/14/13 at 9:58 am to Ford Frenzy
quote:By the transitive property, we have proven Kobe Bryant is overrated.
Wade is hyped as a Superstar, I think a true superstar would have managed better with the supporting cast
We did it, Shel!
Posted on 5/14/13 at 10:01 am to Ford Frenzy
quote:Just so we're clear, you think Wade with Q/Haslem/Rookie Chalmers should have been better than KG/Pierce/Garnett/Rondo?
I think a true superstar would have managed better with the supporting cast
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