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re: The Mask Game: LeBron James 61 points.

Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:33 am to
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:33 am to
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I put perspective players in order based on their ability in the prime of their careers.



Championships don't matter to you?
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:33 am to
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I mean as it sits right now Durant's numbers are still objectively better than LeBron's and Durant is still "having the better season" statistically.

LeBron is the 2 time defending champ. I don't care if he averages slightly fewer points and rebounds. Stats are not all that matter. I mean you see what the dude is capable of.




If the Heat pass the Pacers to finish with the best record in the East and the NBA (as they look like they might after essentially taking it easy for a couple months) then I'd say Lebron had the better season if his numbers are close. I wouldn't always say that but the Thunder are not without talent so it isn't like we're comparing a superhuman effort from one player on an otherwise lousy team to an excellent effort from the best player on one of the best teams.

Anyway, to compare this seasons's results from both players:

Lebron:
26.9 PPG, .580 FG%, 7.0 TRB, 6.4 APG, 1.5 SPG, 0.3 BPG, 3.5 TOV

Durant:
31.6 PPG, .507 FG%, 7.7 TRB, 5.6 APG, 1.5 SPG, 0.8 BPG, 3.6 TOV

Pretty amazing numbers. Durant is more productive but Lebron is more efficient on the balance. It is really close enough you can give it to either player
Posted by jg8623
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:34 am to
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Please, continue your whining... I am sure I speak for all of us when I say, "I'd like to hear more."


You know you can't disagree with anything I said so your just gonna call me a whiner

A whiner who still says LeBron is the best player in the world, guess you just overlooked that part
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:35 am to
Tie goes to Durant on account of LeBron having four in his trophy case.

And we know voters actually vote like this based off history.
Posted by Legendary0903
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:35 am to
They play a large part, yes.

Edit: You are an NBA coach w one season. Do you take prime LJ or prime Kobe for one shot at a title?
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 12:37 am
Posted by jg8623
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:37 am to
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If the Heat pass the Pacers to finish with the best record in the East and the NBA (as they look like they might after essentially taking it easy for a couple months) then I'd say Lebron had the better season if his numbers are close. I wouldn't always say that but the Thunder are not without talent so it isn't like we're comparing a superhuman effort from one player on an otherwise lousy team to an excellent effort from the best player on one of the best teams.


Even if the thunder keep the 1 seed in the way more competitive conference? Even after they lost Westbrook for that chunk of time?

And are you saying the heat don't have talent but the thunder do?
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:37 am to
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If the Heat pass the Pacers to finish with the best record in the East and the NBA (as they look like they might after essentially taking it easy for a couple months) then I'd say Lebron had the better season if his numbers are close.


Why does LeBron get rewarded for playing in the shittier conference?

OKC will probably end up with the 1 seed in the West, which is a much more difficult task.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:39 am to
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Do you take prime LJ or prime Kobe for one shot at a title?


LeBron, but I am not arguing Kobe>LeBron. I said it was silly to say MJ>LeBron was the closest.
Posted by Legendary0903
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:40 am to
Your post came across as whiney... sorry, just my opinion.

LBJ is currently the best basketball player in the world... my opinion, yet seems like a fact.

Any unbiased observer would clearly see that the Lebron-lovers and the Lebron-haters balance each other out. Your rant seemed directed solely at Pro-Lebronites. Makes you seem biased on the matter.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:40 am to
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Why does LeBron get rewarded for playing in the shittier conference?




Because it isn't the conference. The Heat have dominated the West this year and taken games off against bad teams in the East.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:42 am to
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26.9 PPG, .580 FG%, 7.0 TRB, 6.4 APG, 1.5 SPG, 0.3 BPG, 3.5 TOV


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31.6 PPG, .507 FG%, 7.7 TRB, 5.6 APG, 1.5 SPG, 0.8 BPG, 3.6 TOV


If you show some random person those number with no name next to them, they will pick the second player most of the time

I know stats aren't the end all be all, but just basing it from stats KD is still the MVP.... But we still have a little ways to go. Gonna be awesome watching how these 2 guys finish the year
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:42 am to
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Edit: You are an NBA coach w one season. Do you take prime LJ or prime Kobe for one shot at a title?

LeBron.
Posted by Legendary0903
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:42 am to
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LeBron, but I am not arguing Kobe>LeBron. I said it was silly to say MJ>LeBron was the closest.



LeBron is becoming that efficient IMO. He is an elite scorer, rebounder, passer, and defender. His overall skillset may be the best of all-time. I do agree that MJ's cutthroat mentality makes him the best, but I do not believe the gap is insurmiuntable.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:44 am to
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The Heat have dominated the West this year and taken games off against bad teams in the East.


I would say getting the #1 seed in the West would be dominating the West.

Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:44 am to
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Your post came across as whiney... sorry, just my opinion. LBJ is currently the best basketball player in the world... my opinion, yet seems like a fact. Any unbiased observer would clearly see that the Lebron-lovers and the Lebron-haters balance each other out. Your rant seemed directed solely at Pro-Lebronites. Makes you seem biased on the matter.


Maybe so, but it was directed at the LeBron fans who simply disregard any other players in the league

And yes, it's pretty much a fact that LeBron is the best player in the world. I've always said that. But it's still possible for someone else to have a better single season without being the best player in the world
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:45 am to
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I do agree that MJ's cutthroat mentality makes him the best, but I do not believe the gap is insurmiuntable.


If LeBron wins more titles sure. I'd prefer if it didn't take him building a super team to do so, but that is beside the point.
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 12:46 am
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:47 am to
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Because it isn't the conference. The Heat have dominated the West this year and taken games off against bad teams in the East.


So KD and the thunder haven't also dominated the west since they are actually sitting at the 1 seed in that actual conference?

And taking games off still counts against your season. Can't just throw those games out
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 12:48 am
Posted by Legendary0903
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:51 am to
No worries, man. FWIW I love watching KD play. A healthy Thunder/Heat matchup in the championship series would be fricking awesome.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:52 am to
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A healthy Thunder/Heat matchup in the championship series would be fricking awesome.


Every NBA fan is praying for that to happen
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:55 am to
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Every NBA fan is praying for that to happen



Screw that. We are sneaking into the 8 seed and knocking OKC out of the 1st round
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