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re: So this would be the 8-team playoff, right?

Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:36 am to
Posted by thegreatboudini
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:36 am to
I think with 8 you HAVE to toss western michigan a bone. period.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:39 am to
With some sort of automatic qualifier for the best group of 5 champion? Or if the best group of 5 champion is ranked in the top 14 (or something) they get in?

I don't think they have one of the best 8 résumés.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 8:40 am
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:42 am to
They have to squeeze in at 7 or 8. 5 conference champions are in, 3 at large bids. Whether they have the SOS or not (obviously they don't), they still won every game they played.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:45 am to
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This statement right here is why Ohio State should be a lock for the playoff. They fricking played everyone.


Yeah, 2-1 vs the field, with 2 of them in prime time on the road. PSU, Michigan and USC were 1-1, Bama 1-0, Okla and Washington 0-1, Clemson 0-0.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:46 am to
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Just stipulate that conf. champs have to be ranked in the committees final top 10 or 12 to get the auto bid.


That fixes nothing. More kicking it down the road. The only way auto bids work, is if they're all playing under the same rules.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:49 am to
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I don't want this year's Virginia Tech in a playoff. Or last year's Southern Cal.


Exactly, that's why I said have a stipulation that they have to be ranked in the top 10 or 12 of the committees last ranking to get the auto bit. Sort of like the Notre Dame stipulation they had for BCS bowl, that they had to be ranked in the top 12 in order to get an invite.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:12 am to
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That fixes nothing. More kicking it down the road. The only way auto bids work, is if they're all playing under the same rules.


How is that not playing by the same rules? If we are going to do auto bids for the P5 conference champs then you have to have a suckage clause. Nobody would want to see VT this year.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:16 am to
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How is that not playing by the same rules?


The Big 12, for one.

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If we are going to do auto bids for the P5 conference champs then you have to have a suckage clause. 


Determined by a committee...
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:32 am to
Big 12 goes back to a championship game beginning next year.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71710 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:50 am to
They do, and it's the right move. There's still disparity among the conference champs.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:58 am to
Nice matchups but still not a fan of the 8th team getting any shot at a NC. Just too much mediocrity in most years.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 10:03 am
Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:17 am to
I agree...p5 conference champs automatically in and 3 wildcard teams...committee seeds them and first round played at higher seeds home stadium
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47737 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:21 am to
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There's still disparity among the conference champs.


Duh. There is every year. You are basically saying why bother even playing the playoff this year since Bama is head and shoulders better than everybody. If you have a suckage clause then you don't get somebody in the top 8 that has absolutely no business being their.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71710 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:25 am to
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There is every year.


Right, so bitching about conference championships is a waste of time.

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You are basically saying


Nope. Not at all.

I'm saying teams that don't make the top four have little to complain about, including Ohio State if they don't make it.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:30 am to
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I'm saying teams that don't make the top four have little to complain about, including Ohio State if they don't make it.


We are arguing two different points then. I'm in favor of an 8 team playoff and you are not. I have no issue with including all P5 conference champions if they meet a certain criteria (suckage clause. I'm also not arguing that OSU should not be in this year because I believe they do. I'm just saying I like the idea of an 8 team playoff where PSU gets rewarded for winning the conference and being capable of making some noise.
Posted by gatorsimz
cafe risque
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:31 am to
Id like to see a 6 team play off, top 2 teams get a bye. 6 plays at 3, 5 plays at 4. Then the final 3 games like it already is.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26579 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:35 am to
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I personally think they should just auto-bid P5 conference winners just reflect an upset in the rankings.


I don't. You would have 9-4 teams in the playoffs sometimes
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71710 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:36 am to
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We are arguing two different points then.


Not really. I think you're confused.

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I have no issue with including all P5 conference champions if they meet a certain criteria 


I don't either. What criteria? It has to be more than some arbitrary nonsense, or there's little or no improvement.

All conferences would need to be standardized before this would ever work.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26579 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 10:48 am to
How about a minimum conference record of 6-2?
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