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Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:52 pm to hendersonshands
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We have made the all out effort. It takes time. Chill bruh.
How much more time does it need? It's been around for hundreds of years now. It'll be a niche sport at best but never mainstream here in the US.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:55 pm to boxcar willie
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the kind of athletes you named wouldn't help a bit. It take a totally different type of athlete for soccer. We have the type of athletes needed for soccer in this country right now, they just aren't getting the proper training and backing. Football and basketball athletes does not necessarily equate to soccer athletes. Soccer is a more finesse sport that takes a more cerebral athlete along with many other traits that aren't found among very many NFL or NBA players. Different sports take different types of athletes.
If you don't think an athlete like LeBron would be good at soccer I don't know what to tell you Tim Howard thanks High School basketball for a lot the skills he has as a goalie.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:55 pm to boxcar willie
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the rest of the world doesn't give a crap about those sports for the most part, especially not in comparison to soccer.
And you're missing the awesome thing about being American in the first place.
We don't have to care what other countries think.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:56 pm to htran90
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Because if I'm a superb athlete that could excel in Soccer vs. Basketball, Baseball, or Football I'm going with the other 3 for the $$.
being a superb athlete at one of those sports does not mean you would a superb athlete at soccer. The physical and especially mental traits needed for soccer are much different than those that are needed for american football. It seems to be a poor excuse for why we are not better at soccer that is always thrown out there.
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 11:57 pm
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:57 pm to boxcar willie
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When Russia got into outer space before we did, we changed our whole school system, spent billions of dollars, and made it to the moon in a short time span.
Oh, I see your point. We should use our superior technical, scientific and military skills and technologies to quickly advance up the ranks of world soccer.
Well, a few well placed nukes would go a long way. Hell, having a lot of the planet in shambles paid off big for us, post WWII.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:58 pm to Goldrush25
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How much more time does it need? It's been around for hundreds of years now. It'll be a niche sport at best but never mainstream here in the US.
Well basketball had been around for 100 years before teams like Argentina and Spain proved they could compete with the Americans for an Olympic championship, but that time happened. Don't see why it couldn't in soccer. We didn't even qualify for the world cup in between the 1950 and and 1990 world cups. I believe this was the first time in history we have ever made it to the knockout round in back to back WCs and it's going to become the expectation. The more popular the sport becomes, and numbers say it is becoming more popular, the better we will be in the future.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:59 pm to Dawgsontop34
I wonder if there's a German message board somewhere going "OMG WHY ARE WE NOT GETTING OUR KIDS TO PLAY AMERICAN FOOTBALL!!"
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:00 am to RTR America
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If you don't think an athlete like LeBron would be good at soccer I don't know what to tell you
Yeah, I'm guessing a team stocked with our best NFL and NBA athletes, but trained in soccer from an early age, would do pretty well.
No need to genetically engineer Super Soccer Studs. We've already got them; they just don't play soccer.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:03 am to Dawgsontop34
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Well basketball had been around for 100 years before teams like Argentina and Spain proved they could compete with the Americans for an Olympic championship, but that time happened. Don't see why it couldn't in soccer. We didn't even qualify for the world cup in between the 1950 and and 1990 world cups. I believe this was the first time in history we have ever made it to the knockout round in back to back WCs and it's going to become the expectation. The more popular the sport becomes, and numbers say it is becoming more popular, the better we will be in the future.
This.
As late as 1989 we were playing national games in a 10000 seat stadium at El Camino College in California.
At the 1990 World Cup we were totally outclassed in every game. In 1998 we finished dead last at the World Cup and were pretty pitiful during group play.
this is the first time in our history we have made it out of the group stage twice in a row. Not to mention most though we would finish 3rd or 4th in the group of death this year.
We are making huge gains as a country. Soccer is gaining popularity in the USA and our national team will continue to improve as a result.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:04 am to RTR America
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If you don't think an athlete like LeBron would be good at soccer I don't know what to tell you Tim Howard thanks High School basketball for a lot the skills he has as a goalie.
goalie is the one position on the soccer field where that would apply. It's sort of like when soccer players started becoming field goal kickers. It is a completely different position than the rest of the team. Besides, there is a lot more to being a goalie than being able to dunk a basketball. You have to be able to direct a team, sort of like a coach on the field, and also be a good leader and work well in a team unit. So no, I couldn't see Lebron being a great goalie.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:06 am to Walking the Earth
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Yeah, I'm guessing a team stocked with our best NFL and NBA athletes, but trained in soccer from an early age, would do pretty well.
No need to genetically engineer Super Soccer Studs. We've already got them; they just don't play soccer.
I hate the argument some of these soccer fans make that it wouldn't translate.
I can understand saying how a 6'11 Dwight Howard would struggle at soccer, but you can't tell me with a straight face an athlete like Russell Westbrook playing soccer his entire life wouldn't find a way to make some sort of impact.
I just watched Belgium basically win the game because they brought in a striker that just bullied our players with the ball because of how strong he was. It is the reason losing Altidore sucked for us possession wise.
Yes they may never reach the level of technical skill that a guy like Messi or Ronaldo has, but to say they couldn't make an impact seems absurd.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:08 am to boxcar willie
no, let's do it the american way and export football and basketball until they supplant soccer like we do with everything else
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:09 am to boxcar willie
Most top athletes would be good at any sport if they applied their focus to it for the majority of their lives. However, very few of them would be world class.
Could Lebron be a good soccer player, sure. but the odds or against him being a world class player.
Could Lebron be a good soccer player, sure. but the odds or against him being a world class player.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:11 am to TexasTiger08
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It was a nice run, but it's not going to happen overnight in America.
It wasn't even a nice run. We won 1 out of 4 games.
This post was edited on 7/2/14 at 12:12 am
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:15 am to Walking the Earth
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Yeah, I'm guessing a team stocked with our best NFL and NBA athletes, but trained in soccer from an early age, would do pretty well.
No need to genetically engineer Super Soccer Studs. We've already got them; they just don't play soccer.
Exactly. We would dominate if our best athletes played soccer.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:20 am to Walking the Earth
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Yeah, I'm guessing a team stocked with our best NFL and NBA athletes, but trained in soccer from an early age, would do pretty well.
doubtfull. Soccer requires great endurance, intelligent play, a large amount of finesse, touch, and coordination, the desire and ability to work as a single team unit, and a lot of other traits that aren't necessarily found in the best NFL or NBA athletes. We have the athletes to be great soccer players who aren't playing in the NBA or NFL but they aren't playing soccer either and the ones who are aren't getting the proper training from an early age or there after. They aren't being brought along properly to reach elite levels. But for arguments sake, even if you want to subtract out all the brothas playing football and basketball, that still leaves 250 million whites and latinos. Germany does it with a country of 80 million people. Uraguay has 3 million people. That brothas don't like soccer is a poor excuse.
This post was edited on 7/2/14 at 12:26 am
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:28 am to Ostrich
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It wasn't even a nice run. We won 1 out of 4 games.
we won one, tied one, and lost one by 1 point to get out of the 'group of death'. Then lost by one in overtime in the single elimination. It was a nice run all things considered. But yes, we should do much better.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:37 am to Walking the Earth
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Oh, I see your point. We should use our superior technical, scientific and military skills and technologies to quickly advance up the ranks of world soccer.
no, but we should spend the same amount of focus and resources on becoming a world soccer power. Sure we have great American football and basketball players, but that means next to nothing in the grand scheme of things. So what if we can beat Germany in basketball, they don't care about that, we don't really care about that either, nor does anyone in the rest of the world care about it. But that Germany can kick our arse in soccer is a big deal on the world stage.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:52 am to RTR America
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you can't tell me with a straight face an athlete like Russell Westbrook playing soccer his entire life wouldn't find a way to make some sort of impact.
This.
Come the frick on. Like I said in the other thread, the rest of the world should be scared that we are competitive NOW. Soccer is still a niche sport for us and our best athletes chase the glory of other sports before soccer.
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