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re: Should Penn State get the death penalty

Posted on 7/1/12 at 11:43 pm to
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 7/1/12 at 11:43 pm to
At first I thought the same thing, but then got into a conversation and a valid point was brought up, that this will be a precedence set for other teams that cover up things of this magnitude. The only way to not punish the players would be to let them transfer with no restrictions. Ths is a huge deal for Penn State and the NCAA
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 7/1/12 at 11:46 pm to
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ND and, I hate to say it, a certain new member. Not saying they would accept invite but those are two they may go after.

Notre Dame is out of the question. I honestly think Mizzou would bail. We all know that they wanted badly to be in the B1G and was pissed that Nebraska got the invite and they didn't.
Posted by Daigeaux
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Posted on 7/1/12 at 11:47 pm to
Paterno and the rest involved have no f'n morals to basically ignore what happened. If they try throwing a scandal like this under the rug, you can bet your happy arse that NCAA infractions were committed by those douche bags and the NCAA is waiting in the wings...book it!
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 7/1/12 at 11:49 pm to
Agree, no way they even remotely have any
Posted by rangers911
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Posted on 7/1/12 at 11:51 pm to
Not sure if the NCAA will do anything, though it could, PSU is going to face one of the largest lawsuits in the history of lawsuits I suspect lol.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 7/1/12 at 11:52 pm to
Go back on page 5 and read the links i posted. It is not going to end well at all for PSU.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/1/12 at 11:56 pm to
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Penn State is a great school and great for college football


No, no it is not. It's the worst and most horrifying college in the nation. They chose victory of a game that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things over the lives of in the very least a dozen (and this is pretty light right here) boys and chose to have their lives ruined. They've taken college football back twenty years with this mob mentality and Penn State back 100 years. It is a horrifying university and program, and this is coming from someone whose favorite OOC team was Penn State this time last year.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 12:00 am to
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It is a great school, on the cutting edge...a heavy influence in global research...have you been there? And, the State of PA will have to fund the settlements ultimately...the tax base. Culpability is much more complex vs the university and the State than folks think, although several million may be paid out...the school and the State molested no one. What damages to these kids occurred after the school knew, or should have been able to stop it, can be mediated or adjudicated, but the molester can't pay anything. What do you think...20% on the school before they knew and 50% afterward?


Go frick yourself. I know what kind of mob mentality these fricks have and that Sandusky molesting kids was an open secret.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 12:00 am to
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No, no it is not. It's the worst and most horrifying college in the nation. They chose victory of a game that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things over the lives of in the very least a dozen (and this is pretty light right here) boys and chose to have their lives ruined. They've taken college football back twenty years with this mob mentality and Penn State back 100 years. It is a horrifying university and program, and this is coming from someone whose favorite OOC team was Penn State this time last year.


I do not think they will recover anytime soon. Recruits can't want to be apart of this
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 12:01 am to
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No, no it is not. It's the worst and most horrifying college in the nation. They chose victory of a game that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things over the lives of in the very least a dozen (and this is pretty light right here) boys and chose to have their lives ruined. They've taken college football back twenty years with this mob mentality and Penn State back 100 years. It is a horrifying university and program, and this is coming from someone whose favorite OOC team was Penn State this time last year.


It really makes you lose all respect for Joe Pa and everything he had done. All the acts of charity and civil service are complete crap. Bear Bryant is rolling in his grave.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 12:04 am to
Do you think Bobby Bowden should get the record now?
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 12:13 am to
I really don't know. He was only kept around so that he could get the record. He should have been gone back in 02. If they stripped the wins i wouldn't care.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 12:22 am to
I hope they do
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 1:39 am to
i hope they burn the place to the ground and salt the earth.
Posted by AUTiger83
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 2:02 am to
You people have lost your fricking minds. There are specific individuals in leadership positions at penn state who are culpable in this mess, but I cannot see penalizing the innocent students and student athletes for this. Put the management in prison or sue them for their actions. They are guilty. The guy playing 2nd team DB isn't.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 3:02 am to
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You people have lost your fricking minds. There are specific individuals in leadership positions at penn state who are culpable in this mess, but I cannot see penalizing the innocent students and student athletes for this. Put the management in prison or sue them for their actions. They are guilty. The guy playing 2nd team DB isn't.


See page 5 before you start getting ignorant. Doesn't matter who is at fault, there program will not make it out of this ok
Posted by Daigeaux
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 4:46 am to
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The guy playing 2nd team DB isn't.


Neither was the guy playing 2nd team defensive back at SMU, but guess what?

Penn State is like a cult, seriously. When they termed JoPa, there were THOUSANDS gathered at HIS STATUE! Protesting.
Posted by dr__dawggy
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 5:20 am to
Criminal penalties? Lock em up and Throw away the key.

Civil Liability? Bankrupt em

NCAA Penalties? Give em the death penalty

Accreditation: Revoke it!!!

Additional penalties: Burn PSU to the ground and salt the earth.

Surprised no one has thought of digging JoePa up so he can be burned at the stake.


Criminal sanctions and Civil Liability seem adequate and appropriate remedies. Lock up Jerry and others guilty of criminal misconduct. Bankrupt the school with civil suits. Much more than this says more about us than about them; about our blood lust rather than justice. Just my two cents worth.
Posted by Daigeaux
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 5:36 am to
dr__dawggy

I understand what you're saying...suppose Sandusky, or another coach paid off a bunch of players in the locker room, or recruits that were on a visit to PSU were paid off an exuberant amt of money in that same locker room...yet PSU tried to cover it up but were caught years later. If the NCAA wanted to, and they had the proof, then they could issue the death penalty, if they wished to.

Now, here's Sandusky sexually molesting children in that same locker room, PSU coaches and Administration knew but tried covering it up for 12 years, were caught in one of the biggest college scandals ever, yet the NCAA shouldn't step in? There was no institutional control, which the NCAA says the institution should have over its coaches, because even the president was involved.
The NCAA will be involved in this. Granted, the current players are innocent and should be allowed to transfer with no penalties, but Penn State University should pay the price for this sickening act of conduct from the top on down. They're guilty.

This post was edited on 7/2/12 at 5:51 am
Posted by Herman Frisco
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Posted on 7/2/12 at 7:05 am to
This abomination went from the water boy to the president of the school. This was the ultimate "Don't ask don't tell". Everyone knew something was wrong. Some more than others. PSU was it's own City state. What went on there stayed there. It was Happy Valley.
Now the whole country sees the cancer that lived there for years.
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