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re: #SECBias is the easiest thing to debunk, ever

Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:37 pm to
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But that game 9-6 game was different than the MSU- Bama game because LSU never had full control of the game like Bama did.

That's why they got a rematch.
Not to hijack the thread, but this is retarded. You REALLY think that's why Bama got a rematch and not because they were one of the two best teams?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:38 pm to
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So you want to punish Mississippi State? Who has probably played the toughest schedule and lost one away game to a top ranked team?
Oregon has the toughest schedule so far of the 1-lossers. Then Alabama, then State. Then the other three.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:39 pm to
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MSU sits and home and gets to coast into the playoffs. Not fair at all.

Not fair to whom?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76509 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:39 pm to
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Not to hijack the thread, but this is retarded. You REALLY think that's why Bama got a rematch and not because they were one of the two best teams?


It was certainly a large factor, I'm not sure why that's retarded.

If LSU won the game by 14 do you think Bama would have had a rematch?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:39 pm to
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I don't think any conference should get more than one team.

Too bad.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23111 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:39 pm to
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Not enough information given to answer.



This is the correct answer. We have no idea if the committee will weigh conference titles heavily or not.

The committee may rate each team out of 100. Maybe a conference title gets you a flat 15 additional points, or maybe it gets you 5.

Maybe the SEC Champ gets 15, the B1G Champ gets 8, and the ACC champ gets 5. who the hell knows what is going on behind those doors.

This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 12:41 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:40 pm to
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MSU sits and home and gets to coast into the playoffs. Not fair at all.


MSU would have the same amount of games played as Big12 teams, no? What's not fair?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76509 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:40 pm to
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Too bad.


You sound like such a petulant child with all your little replies in this thread.

#bunked
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7797 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:40 pm to
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debated putting LSU on there since who knows what they will finish at myself. If they lose again (very possible) they aren't a quality win this year likely


I get it and I'm really not one of the people here trying to argue that Ohio St should be out as I think the diversity of having teams from across the country is better and the difference between OSU and MS St is certainly debatable.

However, about LSU: they beat Wisconsin in a (relatively) neutral site game and then only lost to SEC west teams.
At some point you have to admit that this strongly supports an argument that some teams from other conferences may have taken an extra loss or two playing an SEC West schedule. . . At very least: enough to not discount beating them as quality wins.




This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:40 pm to
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This is so bogus. The goal is to get the best 4 teams in the playoff, not the best 4 conference winners


I don't think any conference should get more than one team.

Those teams already had a playoff during the season.



I agree with you, unless it fricks bama, because frick bama
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
Member since Jun 2012
7374 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:41 pm to
Since bad losses don't matter, you would be OK with Bama making the playoffs if they lose to Western Carolina this week. Right?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76509 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:41 pm to
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MSU would have the same amount of games played as Big12 teams, no? What's not fair?


I agree that's not fair either.

Hence why the Pac, SEC, ACC and B1G should get a preference over a team from the Big 12 all other things being basically equal.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:41 pm to
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You sound like such a petulant child with all your little replies in this thread.

K.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:41 pm to
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Do you think that a team that doesn't win it's division deserves a shot at a playoff?

If they are one of the best 4 teams, yes.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72026 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:42 pm to
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Not to hijack the thread, but this is retarded. You REALLY think that's why Bama got a rematch and not because they were one of the two best teams?
Yes.

As someone said, if LSU would've won by 14 points, the rematch never would've happened, no matter how much better Bama was than the rest of the teams in the country.
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 12:44 pm
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43077 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:42 pm to
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If LSU won the game by 14 do you think Bama would have had a rematch?
Yes, absolutely. Okie State was the only other option.


ps - sorry about retard comment
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:42 pm to
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I agree that's not fair either.

Not fair to whom?
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the Pac, SEC, ACC and B1G should get a preference over a team from the Big 12
^^^unfair
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76509 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:42 pm to
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Since bad losses don't matter, you would be OK with Bama making the playoffs if they lose to Western Carolina this week. Right?


They would not win their division (I assume the first tiebreaker is overall record) and would have two losses.

So yeah, I would.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23111 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:43 pm to
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However, about LSU: they beat Wisconsin in a (relatively) neutral site game and then only lost to SEC west teams.
At some point you have to admit that this strongly supports an argument that some teams from other conferences may have taken an extra loss or two playing an SEC West schedule. . . At very least: enough to not discount them as quality wins.


Which is why if MSU and Wisky have 2 and 3 losses, they would be SOMEWHAT equal to Ole Miss and Auburn having 3 and 4 (giving each an extra loss basically)

It's all fun to debate, but this is serious business to these conference leaders who have to figure out a way to get their conference champ in, and potentially give their 2nd best team a shot
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
Member since Jun 2012
7374 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:45 pm to
You would be wrong. Western Carolina doesn't change them winning their division or the conference. Now give your answer.
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