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re: Sean Payton & Mike McCarthy. The two most overrated coaches to win Super Bowls
Posted on 10/26/14 at 8:11 pm to SirWinston
Posted on 10/26/14 at 8:11 pm to SirWinston
What about McCarthy?
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 8:12 pm to RedRifle
What makes them overrated? The fact that they coach good teams?
Posted on 10/26/14 at 8:15 pm to RedRifle
Not even close.
Both are better than
Tony Dungy
John Gruden
Mike Ditka
And a few more
Both are better than
Tony Dungy
John Gruden
Mike Ditka
And a few more
Posted on 10/26/14 at 8:17 pm to RedRifle
Obviously this won't go over well on a Saints board, but most sensible NFL fans would agree.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 8:17 pm to RedRifle
quote:
RedRifle
you know how i know you're a troll? because you told us you weren't one
Posted on 10/26/14 at 8:23 pm to SirWinston
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Tomlin is NOT overrated. I'd take him over Payton
He's getting outsmarted by Marvin Lewis and John Harbaugh on a regular basis these days.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 8:25 pm to lsutigers1992
I disagree. He has a team filled with aging bloated contracts and they can't get younger fast enough.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 9:00 pm to lsutigers1992
quote:
He's getting outsmarted by Marvin Lewis and John Harbaugh on a regular basis these days.
And got utterly pwned by Mike Pettine a few weeks ago.
Tomlin is quickly showing himself to be one of the more inept game day coaches in the NFL. He inherited a veteran-laden team with a ton of leadership, and it's gone downhill since that roster has turned over.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 9:02 pm to RedRifle
quote:
I disagree. He has a team filled with aging bloated contracts and they can't get younger fast enough.
Yeah, the Steelers don't get nearly enough grief for horribly mismanaging their cap situation the last few years.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 9:08 pm to VermilionTiger
quote:
You are becoming worse than goldennugget
Posted on 10/26/14 at 9:14 pm to RedRifle
Brian Billick, John Gruden
Posted on 10/26/14 at 9:21 pm to Overbrook
I could not disagree more about Payton. I think he's the genius behind the turnaround of that franchise. He morphed Drew Brees from a good quarterback to an MVP-type player.
I do agree on McCarthy, though. Rodgers is crazy good.
I do agree on McCarthy, though. Rodgers is crazy good.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 9:29 pm to KCTigerFan212
quote:
I do agree on McCarthy, though. Rodgers is crazy good.
McCarthy turned Aaron Brooks into a legitimate NFL QB that actually carried a team on his back and won a playoff game.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:47 pm to RedRifle
Stick to Ebola.
Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:55 pm to RedRifle
Seriously, name five coaches in the league better than Payton. Go ahead and try and we'll compare résumés.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 1:09 am to rintintin
Look at McCarthys last year before becoming a HC. OC at SF. Possibly the worst offensive season of all time. I don't know if it was his decision to go with Smith over Rodgers but he left Frank Gore backing up the great Kevan Barlow.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 6:54 am to Mephistopheles
Mccarthy and payton are top 7 coaches in the league no doubt.
Mccarthy had good offenses as OC most years with shite qbs
Mccarthy had good offenses as OC most years with shite qbs
Posted on 10/27/14 at 7:00 am to RedRifle
quote:
They both rode the wave of incredibly hot hall of fame quarterbacks to the Lombardi trophy. No troll.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 7:10 am to trom83
McCarthy I can POSSIBLY see the argument.
But with Payton, it is patently ridiculous to claim him overrated. You'd have to be an idiot to not see it. Just look at the saints record the last three years.
2011 12-4 PLAYOFFS Loss Divisional Round 49ers 36-32
2012 7-9 no playoff
2013 11-5 PLAYOFFS Loss Divisional Round Seahawks 23-15
these were essentially the same teams, the only difference?
no payton.
But with Payton, it is patently ridiculous to claim him overrated. You'd have to be an idiot to not see it. Just look at the saints record the last three years.
2011 12-4 PLAYOFFS Loss Divisional Round 49ers 36-32
2012 7-9 no playoff
2013 11-5 PLAYOFFS Loss Divisional Round Seahawks 23-15
these were essentially the same teams, the only difference?
no payton.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 7:31 am to RedRifle
Two words.
Mike Ditka.
Mike Ditka.
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