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re: Sagarin's ranking of the 16 BCS Champs
Posted on 1/14/14 at 9:29 am to dante
Posted on 1/14/14 at 9:29 am to dante
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If Bama 2011 is #3, does that mean had LSU played OSU and won in 2011 they would have possibly been #1?
They would have definitely been no lower than #3, since they would have been undefeated and played a tougher schedule than Alabama. According to Sagarin, LSU played the 7th toughest schedule that year, Alabama the 15th and Oklahoma State the 3rd.
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 9:31 am to trackfan
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They would have definitely been no lower than #3, since they would have been undefeated and played a tougher schedule than Alabama. According to Sagarin, LSU played the 7th toughest schedule that year, Alabama the 15th and Oklahoma State the 3rd.
My INTJ personality combined with my Asperger's will not allow me to process this.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:00 am to trackfan
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Playing seven ranked teams isn't unusual for a team that plays a conference championship game and a BCS bowl, because what you're really talking about is five regular season games against ranked opponents.
Find another school that won 7 games against teams that finished ranked since it "isn't unusual".
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Also, according to Sagarin, Auburn played the 13th toughest schedule in 2010 while USC played the 7th toughest schedule in 2004.
Which is just further proof of how stupid his system is. 7 ranked teams vs. 4 ranked teams. Neither team played a OOC game with a team that finished with a winning record.
Stick to track.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 11:18 am
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:44 am to RandySavage
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Which is just further proof of how stupid his system is. 7 ranked teams vs. 4 ranked teams. Neither team played a OOC game with a team that finished with a winning record.
04 usc ooh schedule- va tech, byu, notre dame and colorado state
10 auburn- clemson, arkansas state, ul monroe, chattanooga
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:44 am to RandySavage
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Find another school that won 7 games against teams that finished ranked since it "isn't unusual".
But Auburn didn't play seven ranked teams in the regular season, they played five, and there are a shitload of teams who've played five regular season opponents who were ranked at the end of the year. LSU also played five ranked teams that year, and UNLV played seven and they aren't even in an AQ conference.
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Which is just further proof of how stupid his system is. 7 ranked teams vs. 4 ranked teams. Neither team played a OOC game with a team that finished with a winning record.
You're just butthurt because the 2010 Auburn team is so lowly regarded by both the humans and the computers. It's not my fault that you can't handle the truth.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:48 am to Urban OhiO
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At least you guys aren't behind the only two loss bcs champ.
You should be ashamed that LSU beat an undefeated tOSU that year.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:49 am to Me Bite
OSU was not undefeated that year...
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:50 am to 632627
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Neither team played a OOC game with a team that finished with a winning record.
04 usc ooh schedule- va tech, byu, notre dame and colorado state
10 auburn- clemson, arkansas state, ul monroe, chattanooga
I guess he just ignored the fact that Virginia Tech finished in the top 10 with a 10-3 record.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:51 am to Me Bite
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You should be ashamed that LSU beat an undefeated tOSU that year.
Not that it matters, but Ohio State wasn't undefeated.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:23 pm to trackfan
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But Auburn didn't play seven ranked teams in the regular season
Oh ok, so you're the type who totally changes your argument after you're proven to be a fool. I thought for sure you could have come up with at least one team from that list that beat 7 teams that finished the season ranked since it's not unusual. Except that it's highly unusual and there isn't another team on that list that did it.
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and UNLV played seven and they aren't even in an AQ conference.
How many did they win?
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You're just butthurt because the 2010 Auburn team is so lowly regarded by both the humans and the computers. It's not my fault that you can't handle the truth.
14-0 says it all. It makes it even better coming from the fan of a school who had to split a title and lost to two unranked teams in their other "glory" year.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:24 pm to 632627
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04 usc ooh schedule- va tech, byu, notre dame and colorado state
10 auburn- clemson, arkansas state, ul monroe, chattanooga
Fair point, overlooked VT. Still 7 ranked teams vs. 4. Not close.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:55 pm to RandySavage
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Oh ok, so you're the type who totally changes your argument after you're proven to be a fool.
No, I'm a person who doesn't adress straw men. The only fools here are you and the rest of the myopic Auburn fans who can't handle the truth.
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I thought for sure you could have come up with at least one team from that list that beat 7 teams that finished the season ranked since it's not unusual. Except that it's highly unusual and there isn't another team on that list that did it.
I didn't bother to check since it's a flawed argument, but based on your lie that none of USC's non-conference opponents had winning records in 2004, I'll assume that you just pulled this out of you arse.
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14-0 says it all. It makes it even better coming from the fan of a school who had to split a title and lost to two unranked teams in their other "glory" year.
There was no split title. They only gave out one Crystal Football in 2003 just like they did all the other years.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:59 pm to RandySavage
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Fair point, overlooked VT. Still 7 ranked teams vs. 4. Not close.
It's not just about the schedule, it also about how you handle that schedule, which is why the 2013 FSU team is rated as high as it is despite having one of the weakest schedules of all the BCS champions. In 2010, Auburn went into November ranked behind Boise State because of how shaky they had looked all season.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:00 pm to Me Bite
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You should be ashamed that LSU beat an undefeated tOSU that year.
Dumbass LSU fan (Repetative, sorry) fail.
Idiot.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:09 pm to trackfan
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No, I'm a person who doesn't adress straw men. The only fools here are you and the rest of the myopic Auburn fans who can't handle the truth.
You were presented a truth and totally dismissed it when it didn't fit your narrative.
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I didn't bother to check since it's a flawed argument
So the quality of teams you play and beat is irrelevant? That's a new angle I've never heard.
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but based on your lie that none of USC's non-conference opponents had winning records in 2004
An acknowledged oversight and a lie are quite different things. I didn't overlook them when listing the ranked teams USC beat that year which is what really mattered.
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There was no split title.
Ha, and it's AU fans that can't handle the truth?
Check out now before further embarrassing yourself.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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those who doubt vince young (at UT) suck cock by choice
This. That team was also loaded all over the place. It may have appeared to be the VY show, but it was a lot more than that.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:26 pm to RandySavage
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You were presented a truth and totally dismissed it when it didn't fit your narrative.
The "truth" that you keep clinging to is about as useful as the color of Auburn's uniforms. The bottom line is that during most of the BCS era, most college football teams didn't have the opportunity to play a conference championship game. Therefore, a team from a conference without a conference championship game who beats six ranked teams would have accomplished essentially the same thing as a team from a conference with a conference championship game who beats seven teams. The only things a team can control is who it schedules out of conference, the number of its wins and the quality of its wins. I'll give Auburn credit for going 14-0 in 2010, but they fail on the other two criteria.
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Ha, and it's AU fans that can't handle the truth?
How predictable, that after you lose the debate, you would try to hijack the thread. The thread is about the Sagarin ratings, not the relevance of the AP poll. Unlike you, I'm totally comfortable with my team's Sagarin ratings, I think the 2003, 2007 and 2011 are ranked right where they should be.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:44 pm to trackfan
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The "truth" that you keep clinging to is about as useful as the color of Auburn's uniforms. The bottom line is that during most of the BCS era, most college football teams didn't have the opportunity to play a conference championship game.
Is this guy serious?!?!?!
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Therefore, a team from a conference without a conference championship game who beats six ranked teams would have accomplished essentially the same thing as a team from a conference with a conference championship game who beats seven teams.
Ok, I'll play along. Find a team from the Big 10, Pac 12, or ACC pre whatever year their CCG started that beat 6 teams that finished the season ranked.
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How predictable, that after you lose the debate, you would try to hijack the thread
Posted on 1/14/14 at 2:07 pm to TejasHorn
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Texas dominated their schedule like few ever had
They absolutely did NOT dominate a below-average A&M team starting a freshman quarterback who ran all over them. It was an 8 point game in the 4th quarter with less than 5 minutes to go when a bad call on a punt return (A&M returner muffed it and immediately fell on the ball, but Randy Christal gave the ball back to Texas) enabled Vince Young to escape with a 40-29 victory (I was at that game).
A&M had 277 rushing yards to Texas' 174
A&M had 118 passing yards and held Texas to 162 (this was the WORST PASS DEFENSE IN FBS)
Both teams turned the ball over 3 times
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 2:39 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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They absolutely did NOT dominate a below-average A&M team starting a freshman quarterback who ran all over them. It was an 8 point game in the 4th quarter with less than 5 minutes to go when a bad call on a punt return (A&M returner muffed it and immediately fell on the ball, but Randy Christal gave the ball back to Texas) enabled Vince Young to escape with a 40-29 victory (I was at that game).
they won a rivalry game on the road by 11 points. they also won their conference championship game by 67 points. won at ohio state, blew out oklahoma. defeated probably the greatest bcs runner up in a historic title game. even as a usc fan, i have no problem with texas being #1 on this list.
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