re: Russ may not avg 10 rebounds by seasons end because of Gibson & Kanter

His team has the worst expected fg% in the league because he contests fewer shots than anyone else in the league. And when he does contest he still gives up the worst %. So you on record as saying that the defense wouldn't be better if he was contesting shots?

I see a 20 points with 6/16 shooting

18 points with 4/14 shooting

14 points with 5/15 shooting

10 points on 3/10 shooting

13 points on 3/9 shooting

One might start to wonder how a PG could be accumulating so many uncontested rebounds, digging into Westbrook's shot contests gives a clearer picture
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Westbrook has contested a grand total of 160 FG's on the ENTIRE SEASON.
That number is staggeringly low and to be frank, flat out embarrassing. To put his 3.4 contests per game in perspective, OKC backup PG Cameron Payne is averaging 4.1 contests per game while playing in less than half of the minutes that Westbrook is.
Westbrook ranks dead last in the NBA in contested shots among players averaging 30 or more MPG by a considerable margin. Hilariously, the only two players who have contested less 3P FGA's are Rudy Gobert and Whiteside, who have contested 53 and 64 respectively. Russell Westbrook is at 69 while having playing close to the same amount of minutes...Yes, DeAndre Jordan has contested more 3P FGA's this season than Russell Westbrook.

Ignoring the fact that he leaving his man with regularity to chase rebounds, even when Westbrook contests shots he's the worst guard in the league in expected FG% against.

His opp. +6.9% over expected FG% is dead last in the NBA among guards. The only other players over 4.5% are Sean Kilpatrick, Kyle Korver, and Emmanuel Mudiay.



Let B guess, this ISN'T hurting his team

Finally, and probably the most damning statistic, is that 7.0 of Westbrook's 10.4 rebounds per game are coming on missed FGA from 13+ feet. The largest proportion of those, 4.2, are from 19+ feet. That number ranks 4th in the NBA behind only Whiteside, Jordan, and Drummond. 83% of those rebounds on misses from 19+ feet are uncontested rebounds, meaning Westbrook had 0 competition for the board.
Why is a point guard able to grab rebounds on missed long shots without contest so frequently? Why is he not guarding the opposing point guard when there's a FGA so far away from the basket? The opposing PG obviously isn't in the paint next to Westbrook, or the rebound wouldn't be uncontested. Is he just abandoning his man when a player has the ball on the perimeter and is likely to shoot?
Summary: Westbrook is almost never contesting shots, instead he's leaving his man open and blatantly attacking the paint in search of defensive rebounds with a numbers advantage. Beyond this, the entire rebounding culture of the team has been centered around the bigs boxing out and deferring rebounds to Westbrook. Additionally, due to his position being perimeter oriented, his constant search of rebounds has compromised OKC's perimeter defense, which ranks dead last in the NBA in opp. guards expected FG% by a considerable margin.


"BUT HE AINT HURTIN THE TEAM!!!"

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The uncontested rebounds stat is almost even between the two.

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Umm, no it isn't. Westbrook has the most uncontested rebounds in the league at 7.8 per game. Harden averages 5.8 per game, which is the exact same as LeBron James.

Westbrooks contested rebound percentage is only 12.4%. Harden is 15.9%.

Westbrook is also DEAD LAST in the league in contested shots for player playing at least 30 mpg. He's not contesting because he's going to chase rebounds.

It's not even a question that Westbrook is inflating his rebounding stats, and there is an argument to be made that he's doing it to the detriment of his team.

Point for harden James presence on the team makes his teammates better.

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Point for harden James presence on the team makes his teammates better.

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Yes, if Harden Norris Cole, Semaja Christian, coming in for him instead of Lou Williams and Eric Gordon, they'd be in the same boat.

Shel we found something we agree on!!

Lebron having only 4 MVP's is a travesty. But, that is not how they vote these things as you so cleverly stated with the Derrick Rose joke MVP year.

This is why Westbrook will not win it. I'm beginning to pity you Westbrook fans for real. The man just was jaded by the second best player on the planet after blowing a 3-1 lead and leaving to the team that beat you in that same series. You lose the same player who will be the MVP this year and has excelled even more since leaving and being a freaking 6th man in OKC.

If Westbrook wants to win anything they better become defensive minded as a team and surround him with defensive stalwarts. He isn't getting anybody else to come in and make them better if KD couldn't.

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The best shooter on the floor with him is Alex Abrines, a rookie from Spain.

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If the rest of those guys played with Harden, they'd all shoot over 38% from 3, ain't that right Boomtard.

Uh huh. 11 assists per game, ball hogging