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re: Russ may not avg 10 rebounds by seasons end because of Gibson & Kanter
Posted on 3/3/17 at 8:42 am to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 3/3/17 at 8:42 am to Boomshockalocka
You really think without durant gs is a gimme win for the rockets? This is why no-one takes you serious
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Posted on 3/3/17 at 8:45 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
I didn't once say it was a gimme win gramps holy shite you're a dumbass 
Posted on 3/3/17 at 8:50 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
and they'll still be at home come join
quote:my bad. You said uneven if durant is back, if he doesn't play good the rockets still win
Not if they get Durant in his first series back after a layoff they won't
Posted on 3/3/17 at 8:56 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Okc team
PF - 6484
PA - 6467
They are one game v HOU away from being outscored on the season at the 75% mark. This is not a good team. Not a threat to win even one playoff series.
You're right, they are not a good team. The only reason they are where they are is b/c of how awesome Westbrook is playing. Every night he needs to score 35 and dish out 13 assists for them to win.
Harden has 4 guys that he can dish to that are shooting better than 38% from 3. These are guys that play 25+ minutes a game.
Westbrook has 2 guys shooting better than 38%, Abrines and Grant, who both play less than 20 minutes a game.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 8:58 am to TeddyPadillac
MVP don't go to a player who leads a merely average team. Believe me if Westbrook wasn't chasing rebs by not guarding his man, his team would be better. Mind bottling how people want to reward him for his team being worse when he has a pretty sizable role in that.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 8:59 am to Tarik One
Kanter isn't the reason that he gets less rebounds.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:03 am to Tarik One
Lol Harden or LeBron is MVP.
I'd vote Harden.
I'd vote Harden.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:09 am to SwaggerCopter
quote:Why would that have any bearing on this conversation?
People seem to have quickly forgotten that the Rockets were considered a bubble playoff team in the preseason.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:12 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:When Westbrook is off the court, OKC is terrible. When Harden is off the court, Houston is still good and nearly as good as when Harden is on the court.
I give the nodge to westbrook for MVP, but both guys are deserving, and one of them has to come in second.
The thing Westbrook has going for him is his supporting cast is rather terrible. They are 2nd to last in 3P%. He literally has to do everything for them to win. It's not like he's just racking up stats on a bad team and losing. He's racking up stats on a bad team and winning b/c of it.
I'd have no problem is Harden wins it though.
In reality, the best player provides the most value, and Lebron is the best player in the NBA/Most Valuable.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:13 am to SwaggerCopter
quote:And?
My problem is that the Rockets and Thunder were considered equal teams going into the year.
We do this thing where instead of admitting we were just wrong, we pretend we were right so that just means that 1 player MUST be the reason why they're so much better than we thought? That's entirely illogical.
The answer there is we were just wrong on what we thought HOU would be.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:14 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:What part of that is Westbrook on the court, and what part of that minus figure comes from Westbrook off the court?
Okc team
PF - 6484
PA - 6467
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:15 am to shel311
I can guarantee you there has never been a MVP with a lowly +3 or whatever his ON court numbers are.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:15 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
They are one game v HOU away
Lol. Every game between the teams has been decided by single digits you fricking idiot.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:16 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:So over the last 20 or so, they're a top 8 all time offense, and a top 10 defense, but have a 12-10 record?
over that time frame they are a top 10 d and have inched their way up to 8th best offense in the history of the league.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:17 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:Probably also haven't had many MVPs whose teams were still +5 when he's off the court.
I can guarantee you there has never been a MVP with a lowly +3 or whatever his ON court numbers are.
That sounds like one hell of a supporting cast, top notch.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:17 am to shel311
It's a conspiracy against the Rockets, NBA won't let them go 82-0.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:21 am to shel311
quote:Right on cue.
Probably also haven't had many MVPs whose teams were still +5 when he's off the court.
Going back 10 years, the only 2 MVP winners whose teams were in the + when they were off the court. Kobe 2008, because his supporting cast was really good.
And DRose 2011, who we all know wasn't remotely deserving of the award.
So yea, you can't have it both ways. You can't say Harden is the MVP and give him ALL of the credit when his team is performing insanely well when he's not on the court.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:22 am to shel311
Hate to break it to ya. But having a better supporting cast has always helped someone's MVP case in the form of team wins, not hurt it.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 9:22 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:So how are they 12-10?
Yep. Posted the link from David Locke last night re the D. And here's your offensive ranking. LINK
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