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re: Prime Calvin Johnson, Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, TO, Julio, AJ Green
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:31 pm to brgfather129
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:31 pm to brgfather129
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Stafford isn't above criticism...but, this is bullshite.
Oh really???
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Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford’s throwing mechanics have been called into question as long as he’s been in the NFL, and as he threw away Detroit’s division lead with 12 interceptions over the last six games, those questions about his throwing motion intensified.
But Stafford doesn’t think that’s anything he needs to work on over the offseason.
Asked if he would spend time next year learning from a quarterback guru like George Whitfield, who has had good results in private tutoring sessions with several NFL quarterbacks, Stafford said he doesn’t believe that’s what he needs.
“Probably not,” Stafford said. “It’s not something that I feel would be my style or beneficial to me.”
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Jackson added that Stafford gets away with being lazy because the team doesn’t demand otherwise. According to Jackson, the franchise quarterback should be leading by example, but in Detroit it was Suh and Calvin Johnson who did that.
“You see clips of Peyton Manning, however limited they are, you see him drilling his pocket presence, his footwork and different things like that,” Jackson said. “The time period I was out there [in Detroit], I didn’t see any consistent drills like that on a daily basis where he’s working on the drops and evading the rush and different things like that. . . . In my opinion, when you’re making that kind of money and you’re the face of the franchise, you put in work. And I don’t think that I was the only one to question that. When you see a guy like Calvin and Ndamukong working hard on a daily basis, doing extra stuff, and you don’t really see that from the quarterback, it’s like how can you be mad with the results? Because it’s not a high demand they’re placing on him for improvement.”
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Former NFL quarterback Kurt Warner is among those who have wanted to reach through his screen and grab Stafford by the shoulders. "He's going to believe that there is a way he can put it in there and he disregards his reads," Warner said on NFL Network. "Sometimes you see his footwork … his footwork is all over the place. By far the most undisciplined quarterback in the National Football League."
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Now, what was that you were saying again?
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Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:38 pm to Lester Earl
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I'm looking at the numbers and I just don't see it with CJ compared to the other 2. And iti's not like Moss had HOF QB's in Minnesota.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:39 pm to BigBrod81
Moss without a doubt. Could you imagine his numbers if he played with Brady sooner. His years between his Viking and pats tenures sullied his legacy.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:47 pm to VAvolfan
The Great Jerry Rice
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:48 pm to cattus
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Great Jerry Rice
Dude used stick'em. Cheating bastard
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:49 pm to VAvolfan
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Could you imagine his numbers if he played with Brady sooner
He had the 1 monster year with Brady an another with Culpepper. Moss's problem wasn't the QB's it was himself.
What I can't imagine is Rice's numbers if he played in offenses that threw the ball 600-700 times a year.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:04 pm to VAvolfan
Calvin JOhnson with his thanksgiving LEADING 9th TD 
Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:05 pm to BigBrod81
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Now, what was that you were saying again?
Glad you were able to dust the cobwebs of those old links...it is nothing I hadn't seen before and certainly stand by what I said.
I couldn't care less about what a talking head like Warner thinks...and just a reminder, Lawrence Jackson harbors resentment toward Stafford because he was a cap casualty in Detroit. The fact he didn't think he needed a QB guru is indicative of nothing.
If you have been following the last couple years under Caldwell, he has been overcoached to the point where it had taken away everything that made him successful to begin with.
The idea he doesn't put the work in is bullshite.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:07 pm to VAvolfan
Moss did not suffer because of Minnesota QB's. Cunningham, Pep, and the Moss ratio - he was awesome there.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:09 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Warren Moon was his QB there also.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:10 pm to sms151t
Moon lasted played for Minnesota in 1996. Cunningham was there in 1998 when Moss was a rookie and caught 17 TD's.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:12 pm to sms151t
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Warren Moon was his QB there also.
He was in Minnesota pre Moss. It was 98 Cunningham, 99 Cunningham/George then 00 Culpepper.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:12 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Culpepper was pretty awesome.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:21 pm to Lester Earl
Yeah, Pep was awesome. 1998-2004 Vikings were so much fun to watch.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:23 pm to Byron Bojangles III
quote:To you and every functioning brain
To me at their best Moss is TGOAT
Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:33 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Randy Moss at his best still can't hold Rice's jock strap.Posted on 11/26/15 at 1:42 pm to brgfather129
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If you have been following the last couple years under Caldwell, he has been overcoached to the point where it had taken away everything that made him successful to begin with.
The idea he doesn't put the work in is bullshite.
That's right blame Stafford’s inconsistent play the last several years on everybody else. Stafford is a veteran & deserves all the criticism he gets. His mechanics are hit & miss. The amount of turnovers he has had over the same time frame is a direct result of his poor mechanics. Posted on 11/26/15 at 2:53 pm to Roaad
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To you and every one that disregards anything that happened before 2000
fify
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 11/26/15 at 8:13 pm to tduecen
Rice
TO
Fitzgerald
Johnson
Irvin
Largent
TO
Fitzgerald
Johnson
Irvin
Largent
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:37 pm to tduecen
I always tend to take Rice's stats with a grain of salt (no pun intended) because he played with two HOF QBs (including the GOAT) and a HOF coach in Walsh.
I'm no TO fan, but his career has been underrated the longer he's been out of the league.
I'm no TO fan, but his career has been underrated the longer he's been out of the league.
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