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re: Peter Gammons Rant about the Astros

Posted on 3/19/13 at 9:47 pm to
Posted by motorbreath
New Orleans Saints fan
Member since Jun 2004
6381 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 9:47 pm to
The rays and nats have followed that formula to really good teams. the Astros are just doing what they can within the rules to win even if it takes 4 years.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41178 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 11:14 pm to
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wondering why he hasn't jumped on Pittsburgh, Marlins, or San Diego.


Houston is in a bigger market than those teams
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
7885 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 11:20 pm to
What a whiny bitch.

Oh nooooo 3 AL West teams might make the playoffs and my beloved AL East will only get one. .....and probably the Rays at that.
This post was edited on 3/19/13 at 11:21 pm
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94467 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 11:42 pm to
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Dumb.


Back on topic, i hate how some teams collect a fat paycheck from revenue sharing and the owners pocket it as opposed to putting it back in the club.


Orly?

A few years back when Gammons was still with ESPN, he gave folks an in-depth report on a Red Sox prospect who had yet to play above AA. He then went on to mention that nights starting pitcher for the Astros..."Fransisco Neeve", although his real name is Fernando Nieve.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7311 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 11:43 pm to
Baseball needs a hard salary cap and a salary floor. I swear, the people in Kansas City, Miami and Pittsburgh ought to riot. You're using tax dollars to put a AA ball team out there? After you begged for a new tax so you can get a new stadium in order to be compettive? That takes balls. No one is saying you have to offer Josh Hamilton $20 million a year, but you can do like Oakland and Minnesota and be smart with scouting and evaluating cheap talent and compete. Some Libertarian lawyer needs to sue the shite out of one of those clubs and get the money back in the hands of the people
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36110 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 11:50 pm to
I like the idea behind revenue sharing (since the Yankees etc do need opponents)... but it only makes sense if you have team salary minimums.

You really shouldn't be able to just invest nothing in your team and just skim the revenue from others that invest heavily.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94467 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 11:56 pm to
My question is was Gammons bitching about it when the Rays and Orioles were shitty teams spending little money for years and years? No, because the division team in the ALE it helped was the Red Sox. So that hack can go frick himself.
Posted by DEANintheYAY
LEFT COAST
Member since Jan 2008
31975 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:14 am to
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My question is was Gammons bitching about it when the Rays and Orioles were shitty teams spending little money for years and years? No, because the division team in the ALE it helped was the Red Sox. So that hack can go frick himself.



Spot on.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103024 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:19 am to
I agree...I used to love Gammons, but he has clearly jumped the shark
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93711 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:19 am to
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If Gammons wants to bitch, he should be bitching about Drayton Mclane and Tim Purpura for running the Astros organization into the ground.

Crane bought a shitty franchise with severe diarrhea condition... he's just ensuring his business has a chance at a profit and hopefully will be competitive one day.


Perfectly said. Peter Gammons is supposed to be a professional and he doesn't see what the Astros are doing from the bottom of the farm system on up?

Houston has gone from the worst farm system in baseball 2-3 year ago to the Top 10 this year. Everything is pointing in the right direction for them and he's thinking that they're tanking?

Give me a break. I'm excited as hell for the future. You're going to be terrible when you have to completely strip down what the former owner and GM did to the place.

When you flip a home and you have to strip it down, is it in preferable liveable condition? Hell no.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:21 am to
Holy shite

Peter Gammons is still alive??
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:23 am to
You mean the system rigged so the Red Sox and Yankees will make the playoffs virtually every year is no longer rigged that way? My heart simply bleeds. The sport is doomed.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136798 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:25 am to
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Astros


Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28723 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:26 am to
Damn, ive pretty much ignored baseball outside of the Braves. Had no idea the Astros were moved to the AL West.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:30 am to
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Prominentwon


Spot on, what the hell is Crane supposed to do with this franchise? People hate on him because of his discrimination lawsuit, supporting Obama, etc. but I couldn't care less because I think he will spend money. Hell, last week he was saying we'd soon enough be spending at or more than what the Rangers are spending now.
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9330 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:32 am to
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Baseball needs a hard salary cap and a salary floor.


I don't care for the hard cap, but I do agree with a floor. If an owner wants to put more of his money back into his ball club to win, I have no issues with it... but there definitely needs to be a floor.

Obviously I'm in the minority here, but I don't have a problem with what Gammons is saying. Houston is a larger market team with a cheap owner. He could easily add 40 million more to payroll and field a competitive team while rebuilding at the same time. Tanking the season before it even starts is bad for baseball and most importantly the fans who pay money to see them play. This is where the floor needs to come in.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136798 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:34 am to
if you know that you are not going to win, why invest (read as "waste") the extra money?
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93711 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:34 am to
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Hell, last week he was saying we'd soon enough be spending at or more than what the Rangers are spending now.


Hopefully they work out their deals with the major cable companies. That's going to have alot to do with what they spend as well.

Plus, if they don't, I won't be able to watch any of their games.
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9330 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:42 am to
I don't agree with not at least making an effort to win. But investing, you increase your chances of winning.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95259 posts
Posted on 3/20/13 at 10:45 am to
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Damn, ive pretty much ignored baseball outside of the Braves. Had no idea the Astros were moved to the AL West.


MLB paid new owner Crane about $70m to move the team from the NL Central to the AL West, which was an MLB-imposed condition of the sale from McLane to Crane.

It was a huge mistake by baseball, IMHO, but they had McLane and Crane over a barrel to do it instead of moving, say, the Colorado Rockies to the AL West and moving the Astros to the NL West.
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