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re: pacquiao vs marquez 4

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Posted by memphstigers23
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Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 9:28 am to
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I think May would box circles are Canelo. The red rocket couldn't touch May's speed IMO.

Agreed. Canelo is a good fighter but he's flawed. Floyd has a Ph.D in the sweet science and that's why he wins all of his fights....most of them with zero problems.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 9:38 am to
so if Floyd the greatest fighter of all-time? in any weight class?
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 9:59 am to
Sugar ray Robinson.



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Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 10:02 am to
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so if Floyd the greatest fighter of all-time? in any weight class?

No but he's top 5

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Floyd Mayweather
4. Willie Pep
5. Joe Louis

IMO
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 10:05 am to
I would argue Mayweather shouldn't even be in the top 5. Definitely not above Joe Louis.

Take out a washed up DLH/Mosley/Hatton and it's a huge blow to his resume.
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 10:08 am to
Floyd would beat almost any fighter from any era. Forget his resume, his speed, defense, and counters would make him a monster at any era in boxing history. That's why none of his fights have been close during his career except the first Castillo fight. He is on another level and deserves to be mentioned with SRR, Armstrong, etc.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 10:10 am to
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his speed, defense, and counters would make him a monster at any era in boxing history.


There's no doubt about it. But I would give more points to a fighter like RJJ that took shots throughout his entire career. Floyd has stayed where he's comfortable and has hand picked his opponents for years.

Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 10:13 am to
Julio Caesar Chavez should be honorable mention IMO
Posted by TTownTiger
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 10:30 am to
quote:

so if Floyd the greatest fighter of all-time? in any weight class?

Bwahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!

quote:

No but he's top 5


Bwahahahahahahaahahahah!!!!!!

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Marciano1


It sucks that you feel this way because you're a knowledgable boxing fan on this site.



Posted by TTownTiger
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 10:36 am to
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Floyd has stayed where he's comfortable and has hand picked his opponents for years.


Bingo. Other than two fights, Diego Corrales & JLC, Floyd has avoided the best fighters around his weight class like a sickness for his entire career. No way can you consider him top 5 of best ever because of this. Going on skill, he has it. But he has never had the guts to display it against guys who "could be" legit threats.
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 10:36 am to
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It sucks that you feel this way because you're a knowledgable boxing fan on this site.

I just feel that his skill level puts him way up there. I can't think of too many boxers that I'd easily pick over him p4p-wise. Floyd will be appreciated more once he retires.
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 10:38 am to
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But I would give more points to a fighter like RJJ that took shots throughout his entire career. Floyd has stayed where he's comfortable and has hand picked his opponents for years.

RJJ fought way too many tomato cans but I know it wasn't his fault. The way he made a fool out of James Toney was

Props to Roy for jumping to heavyweight but imo that killed his career. He rushed his move back to 175 and he shouldn't have.
Posted by smash williams
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 1:16 pm to
Floyd is not top 5 IMO but he would be top 10, below B-Hop and above Sweet Pea.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:34 pm to
Posted by LanierSpots
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:22 am to
Pages 8 and 9 of this thread are pure money.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:53 am to
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RJJ fought way too many tomato cans


Why do people still believe this? It could not possible be further from the truth. Do some research on guys like Reggie Johnson, Thulani Malinga, Julio Cesar Gonzalez, Jorge Castro etc. I would put Roy right there with Ali as having fought and beaten the toughest competition ever.
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