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Nick Saban and "the process"

Posted on 9/21/16 at 6:58 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 6:58 am
Is it just me or this whole thing completely made up?

Almost every coach in football is a process oriented coach. The idea that Saban is the only one that is doing this or who has ever done this is absurd.
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1546 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:00 am to
I can tell you as a lifelong salesperson that some people have better processes than others and some people pretend to have processes but very few truly believe in and are disciplined in there adherence to a process
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16530 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:08 am to
NS's process is his process. And I am sure he developed this from some of the great coaches he has been around that were his mentors. He is a hard worker and pays attention to the details. The smallest of details does not pass him by. He also has a sense of urgency. Put those two things together and I bet only a small % of Americans master both of them well. That is what separates the Sabans and the Urbs of the world from the Lesticles of the world.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:13 am to
Saban is meticulous about every aspect of it, though. It is as though he doesn't care about he results at all. I think he is on the spectrum with Asperger's or something, and that isn't an insult. A lot of highly successful people are. He is obsessed and that sets him apart.

He can win a national championship and force himself to smile while thinking about recruiting at the post-game press conference. It is insane. He is a coaching robot.

Lots of coaches have a process. His is extreme and it works. I'm no fan of Saban, but you have to respect what the man does.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83479 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:14 am to
quote:

Is it just me or this whole thing completely made up?

It's just you.
quote:

Almost every coach in football is a process oriented coach. The idea that Saban is the only one that is doing this or who has ever done this is absurd.

They might. But I believe that he sticks to his more than any other coach in college football. A big part of "the process" is actually sticking to it every single day.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:20 am to
If every other coach is doing it, they suck at it. Nick Saban's resume speaks for itself. He can call his system whatever he wants
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 7:24 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83479 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:22 am to
The way I look at it, every coach has a process. Saban's shits on them, so his is THE process
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31638 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:30 am to
No process accounts for effort, motivation, and leadership. I can create a process on paper. Those intangibles come from a person's character.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:30 am to
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some people have better processes than others and some people pretend to have processes but very few truly believe in and are disciplined in there adherence to a process
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83479 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:36 am to
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No process accounts for effort, motivation, and leadership. I can create a process on paper. Those intangibles come from a person's character.

Yeah but Saban is a piece of shite and his players Leone like him and play scared. Soooooo we know motivation and leadership have nothing to do with it.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31638 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:40 am to
That's my point. Saban's peocess might not work for Joe Philbin, because Philbin isn't a raging lunatic like Saban.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23128 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:42 am to
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That is what separates the Sabans and the Urbs of the world from the Lesticles of the world.


This is true. You can tell when Urban and Saban are in postgames of big wins and they are happy, but also say things like "we had a lot of mistakes today" or "we didn't play our best football." They let their teams know it is great to win, but show the mistakes very quickly to try and get their teams back to even keel. Doesn't always work as nothing is perfect with 18-21 year olds, but they do it the best in today's game.

This is what Meyer said on the B1G Teleconference show this week about OU:

"I was hoping when I watched the tape that everyone would see it the same way I saw it and they did," he said. "We have so much more room for improvement."
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30359 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:45 am to
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Almost every coach in football is a process oriented coach


I don't think that is true, some coaches are much more broad overview types have multiple processes implemented by their coordinators on a skeleton framework the HC identifies.

Also, a process is like a plan, everybody has one until they get punched in the face (to paraphrase Mike Tyson). The real difference is that OCD midget at Alabama still has the same plan after. As much as I despise that little SOB, I gotta respect him as a coach.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66948 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:46 am to
Couldn't you post this Bama circle jerk thread on the sec rant
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:49 am to
quote:

Is it just me or this whole thing completely made up?


Uhhhh, no. It's a thing. Miles plays for "victory" only and says so.

quote:

Almost every coach in football is a process oriented coach.


Every coach has a system, but not necessarily a process. System being a way to attain a goal(s). Process being achieving your goal(s) perfectly. BIG difference.

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The idea that Saban is the only one that is doing this or who has ever done this is absurd.


He may not be the only one now, but he was emphatically the leader of it in college football years ago.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11166 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:59 am to
Saban has every tiny detail of the program fine-tuned to increase his team's chance to win on the field. Every move is thought out, planned, practiced, and executed. From play-calling on Saturdays all the way down to eating Little Debbies snack cakes for breakfast.
Posted by ForkEmDemons
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2014
2235 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:10 am to
Some coaches allow various assistants to tweak their "process". With Saban it is his way or the highway with very little deviation. One of the reasons he is so successful is that he has absolute control of every detail no matter who his assistants are.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87450 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:48 am to
Everything about Saban's process is centered around eliminating complacency, good is never good enough
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110896 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Almost every coach in football is a process oriented coach. The idea that Saban is the only one that is doing this or who has ever done this is absurd
Wait, who has said he's the only coach to have a process?

Every coach in America has a process. Saban's process is just clearly better than everyone else's.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110896 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:55 am to
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No process accounts for effort, motivation, and leadership. I can create a process on paper. Those intangibles come from a person's character.
Apparently, Saban's process at finding max effort, motivated, and great leaders is better than everyone else's.
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