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Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by chrisksaint
Florida
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:28 pm to
Lindback sucks so probably not
Posted by lsu223
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:29 pm to
Hopefully we get the Nashville version of Lindback.
Posted by Zantrix
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 4:10 pm to
Caps got Niskanen for 7 years/40 mil.
Posted by lsu223
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

Caps got Niskanen for 7 years/40 mil.


They're going to regret giving him that deal
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65778 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 5:50 pm to
The Caps went full retard today.

Orpik especially, but then top it off by paying Niskanen 5.75 mill over 7 years for 1 good year in his 8 seasons..

God they are stupid, but I love it.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:21 pm to
Pens re-sign C Marcel Goc to a 1 year 1.2 millon contract.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:56 pm to
I like the Niskanen deal. It's an overpay, particularly in term, but he was the Pens best defense and by far the best defenseman on the market. You have to put up cash to get talent. I don't really care about his boxcar stats, which are certain to decline, I care that he drives possession and he's an active defender. He's been the Pens' best blueliner for three season now, and he's just entered his prime.

Taken with the Orpik deal, I at least see the plan. I don't like it, but I at least see it. The Caps front office has decided that the D corps has been a huge problem, and they went all-in to upgrade. That's fine, I just wish Brooks f'n Orpik wasn't part of the solution. But they will use them to bridge to their prospects.

I think they saw a team that was above average in goals scored and below average in goals allowed, so they moved to shore up the D.

But now they only have about $1.5 million to spend to prevent Laich, Kuznetsov, or MoJo from being your opening night 2C. None of whom, you will note, is primarily a center.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65778 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

I like the Niskanen deal. It's an overpay, particularly in term, but he was the Pens best defense and by far the best defenseman on the market. You have to put up cash to get talent. I don't really care about his boxcar stats, which are certain to decline, I care that he drives possession and he's an active defender. He's been the Pens' best blueliner for three season now, and he's just entered his prime.


Well you have no choice, you paid damn near 6 million a year to lock up the Pens 2nd line Dman that had one good season in his 7 year career for SEVEN years.

You signed 1/3rd of the Pens shite defense for 100 million dollars and long term at that.



Pens win the day according to this NHL beat writer

quote:

Rob Vollman ?@robvollmanNHL 37m
Is PIT today's winner? Greiss, Ehrhoff, Goc, Comeau for $6.9M combined! MTL, STL, EDM, DAL, etc had good days too, but not like that!



GMJR doin' work.
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 8:04 pm
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:48 pm to
I think the Stars clearly won the day. Added Spezza and Hemsky, plus a backup goalie. Still have plenty of cap space to re-sign Dillon and maybe bring in another blueliner. Other than that, their team is set other than a few back end moves. They went from a playoff cusp team to a Stanley Cup cusp team.

The Pens were certainly helped by Ehrhoff taking a far under-market value deal. That 1 year, $4mm deal is obscene. He could've gotten $5m AAV easily.

But honestly, did the Pens make themselves better than they were when the offseason started? They went into the offseason with an extremely top heavy roster and almost no cap space.

So, the team looks pretty much the same today, only slightly worse. They added Horqvist and Comeau on offense, and lost Neal, Jokinen, Glass, Pyatt, and Stepniak. Sutter is still a pending RFA. On defense, they added Ehrhoff, and lost Niskanen and Orpik. In goal, they traded out Vokoun for Greiss, a net zero move but it saved them some on the cap.

So, they now an even thinner team than they were on June 1, and they still have $8.3 million to sign a minimum of six players (and that's just to get to the minimum). Sutter's qualifying offer is $2.7 million, leaving them $5.6 million to find another D and replacements, essentially, for Stepniak and Jusi.

I think the Pens did the best they could given the salary cap apocalypse they are facing, but they are nowhere near out of the woods. They are not an improved team from June 1, and have pretty much the same issues, only now less defensive depth and if possible, less offensive depth.
Posted by chrisksaint
Florida
Member since Jul 2011
1712 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:07 pm to
I generally like what Tampa did today. Got Stralman on good value helping shore up some defensive problems. Replaced Lindback and signed Brian Boyle to short up the 4th line with a veteran player.
Posted by TxTyger13
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:57 pm to
quote:

I think the Stars clearly won the day. Added Spezza and Hemsky, plus a backup goalie. Still have plenty of cap space to re-sign Dillon and maybe bring in another blueliner. Other than that, their team is set other than a few back end moves. They went from a playoff cusp team to a Stanley Cup cusp team.


Gives us room to resign Roussell and Eakin as well. Still think we see a trade of Cole/Gonchar. But trying to get rid of Gonchar and he's terrible contract will be hard to do.
Posted by lsu223
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 12:14 am to
Might as well keep Cole, he only has 1 yr left and gives us good forward depth. Gonchar on the other hand is a hindrance and taking minutes from young guys. We'd have to retain some salary to move him but it would be worth it.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65778 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 7:19 am to
I think we got a lot better for the new style we're going to play.

This isn't Dan Bylsma anymore and the moves made reflect that that new style.

I think we're improved for sure.
Posted by Veritas
Raleigh, NC
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 7:50 am to
While I'm not happy with how much the Caps spent on getting two defenseman, I'm pleased they committed to making themselves better on defense.

At the end of the day they are better today than they were yesterday.
Posted by Baloo
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Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:08 am to
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This isn't Dan Bylsma anymore and the moves made reflect that that new style.

Bylsma is suddenly a bad coach? What's the new style... paper thin depth and pray the first line carries you, and maybe Letang and Martin don't get hurt again? Neither has played a full season since 2010-2011.

If anything, the Pens doubled down on the stars and scrubs strategy. This is a reshuffling of deck chairs.
Posted by Baloo
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Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:41 am to
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While I'm not happy with how much the Caps spent on getting two defenseman, I'm pleased they committed to making themselves better on defense.

I'm not thrilled either, but I see the logic behind it. this team has lacked a commitment to defense, and the new guys are coming in and saying that defense is now a priority. Even if we pay $5.5 million for a third pair defenseman.

And while I think people overrate grit and leadership, stat heads tend to undervalue it. It's worth having some greybeards in the locker room if nothing else to show the young guys the ropes. The Caps will go into next season with precisely three players over the age of 30: Chimera, Ward, and Orpik.

This was a deal for "veteran leadership". I still hate the deal and it is a massive, massive overpay that will be a drag on the cap (one of GMGM's virtues was his lack of bad longterm deals), but I think it shows the front office and coaching staff has a plan. People have talked about "culture change" for a long time in DC... well, here it is. I wouldn't be shocked to see Orpik wearing an A.

Which will make me spit blood.

Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65778 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:47 am to
Caps got significantly worse and fricked themselves long term with the length of the contracts.

But I love it, no playoffs again or for the foreseeable future.

It's going to be so fun watching Crosby and Malkin skate circles around Green, Orpik, and Niskanen.

The domination continues.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65778 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:50 am to
Bob McKenzie ?@TSNBobMcKenzie 13m
Steve Downie agrees to terms on one-year, $1M deal with PIT. #TSN

Tocchet worked well with him in Tampa, great price too.



Love what GMJR is doing, bringing back the toughness and grit that won us a Cup in 09.
This post was edited on 7/2/14 at 11:53 am
Posted by NJ El Tigre
New Jersey
Member since Oct 2010
1301 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:01 pm to
So is every move no matter what a good move to you?

Let me know when you guys address your average to below average goaltending
This post was edited on 7/2/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65778 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:19 pm to
Goaltending? Why would we address that?
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