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re: NBA Fans... Difference between today's game and 10+ years ago
Posted on 5/25/16 at 2:04 pm to tduecen
Posted on 5/25/16 at 2:04 pm to tduecen
quote:This is just the epitome of "everything was better in my day!!!"
"I just don't think coaches today in basketball understand the game of basketball," Robertson said. "They don't know anything about defenses
It's just funny how wrong it is.
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 2:33 pm to shel311
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This is just the epitome of "everything was better in my day!!!"
It's just funny how wrong it is.
I agree that Big O is attacking the wrong group(Coaches).
Most coaches would prefer just a bit more physicality, but rules limit what one can do defensively( physically speaking).
Very small sample ,but Curry is getting slightly bumped around off picks I'm& he's getting frustrated .
That was routine playoff defense in the 90's & considered good basketball.
If they go back to giving those touch fouls they could perhaps turn this around ,but it doesn't look good.
Posted on 5/25/16 at 2:41 pm to tduecen
The NBA today is soooo much better because everyone gets participation trophies.
They're all winners!
They're all winners!
Posted on 5/25/16 at 3:46 pm to tduecen
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Hall of Famer Oscar Robertson told ESPN's Mike & Mike on Thursday that Curry's success is largely due to today's style of play, which isn't as physical as back in the day. Another Hall of Famer, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, concurs.
i'm sure this has been said in this thread but i am going to say it
oscar robertson played in an era without defense that played at an insanely fast pace
kareem adbul jabar, mr physicality, looked like this:
quote:
I just don't think coaches today in basketball understand the game of basketball," Robertson said. "They don't know anything about defenses. They don't know what people are doing on the court.
this is the definition of irony, coming from a man who played in that era
he doesn't even know what defense is, let alone great defense, let alone the complex D of today
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When I played years ago, if you shot a shot outside and hit it, the next time I'm going to be up on top of you. I'm going to pressure you with three-quarters, half-court defense. But now they don't do that. These coaches do not understand the game of basketball, as far as I'm concerned.
case in point
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Steph Curry, unbelievable shooter, but [Kevin Johnson] was a point guard's nightmare because he was so strong and he loved going to the basket,"
KJ was a beast and would be affecting curry, but he's no russell westbrook...and it basically takes Mr. Westbrook to really frick with Curry
Posted on 5/25/16 at 5:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Doesn't Curry have one of the best FG% at the rim?
was a point guard's nightmare because he was so strong and he loved going to the basket,"
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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kareem adbul jabar, mr physicality, looked like this:
Kareem 'looked' more like 6 MVPs, 2 FMVPs & scoring titles ,4 time Blocks leader playing against those frail big men like :
Chamberlain , Thurmond , Lanier, Moses Malone , Gilmore, Walton, Reed ,Parish ,Etc......
Kareem knows physical ball & he sees it lacking today.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:04 am to sugar71
kareem is a historically great player and has an argument for GOAT basketball player (i mean total lifespan)
kareem showed that you didn't have to be physical in his era to be amazing
how physical could his opponents get when they were not nearly as strong as guys today?
there is only so much physicality that those players could deliver
guys like artis gilmore and wilt were the absolute freaks of their era and that's a standard 7-footer today
kareem showed that you didn't have to be physical in his era to be amazing
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Kareem knows physical ball & he sees it lacking today.
how physical could his opponents get when they were not nearly as strong as guys today?
there is only so much physicality that those players could deliver
guys like artis gilmore and wilt were the absolute freaks of their era and that's a standard 7-footer today
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:05 am to Fearthehat0307
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:12 am to tduecen
Those dudes are just looking for attention. Steph dominates in any era.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:13 am to SabiDojo
naw bruh the big O is going to take himself out of his team's defensive alignment to D up steph at the 3/4 court mark and stop that shite
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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guys like artis gilmore and wilt were the absolute freaks of their era and that's a standard 7-footer today
just stop it
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:18 am to tduecen
No one benefits more from today's rules than some of these guards that don't have jumpers, not someone like Curry. Curry would be great in any period.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:18 am to VerlanderBEAST
what physical beasts from the 60s/70s did i leave out?
maybe moses malone?
if you'd provide pics to show their physique, that would be great
maybe moses malone?
if you'd provide pics to show their physique, that would be great
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:19 am to Smoke7024
Curry is also not just a shooter.
I'll be the first to agree with Oscar that the fact that no one picks him up at half court is absurd.
but Curry is not 1 dimensional. It just seems that way because he is so good at shooting.
I'll be the first to agree with Oscar that the fact that no one picks him up at half court is absurd.
but Curry is not 1 dimensional. It just seems that way because he is so good at shooting.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:24 am to cas4t
Oh for sure. I wasn't implying he's one dimensional. I'm talking more about some of these guards that can't shoot at all, but are good at getting to the rim.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:30 am to cas4t
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I'll be the first to agree with Oscar that the fact that no one picks him up at half court is absurd.
that would completely throw the defensive formation out of balance
this isn't back in the day when hard man was the only defensive option and if you were taken out at half court, the D could recover easily
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:30 am to Smoke7024
I also don't really think you're going to get very far talking about Superstars not being great in certain periods. They're superstars for a reason and likely great in any period.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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that would completely throw the defensive formation out of balance
this isn't back in the day when hard man was the only defensive option and if you were taken out at half court, the D could recover easily
Illegal defense rules were changed in 2001 and nothing changed(Phil Jackson basically won every year before and after), until recently when the NBA is basically void of great bigs and post scorers.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 10:39 am
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:39 am to VerlanderBEAST
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when the NBA is basically void of great bigs and post scorers.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:47 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Dirk KG Duncan Pau were the last great bigs. Melo is the last great post scorer.
when the NBA is basically void of great bigs and post scorers.
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