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re: MLB Trade Deadline News: Mets get Cespedes, Cubs Hunter Padres LOL
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:48 pm to Broseph Barksdale
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:48 pm to Broseph Barksdale
I would imagine, given what they have been asking for him for so long, I doubt his recent struggles have lowered their asking price at all.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:39 am to UltimateHog
quote:
I feel like that would be a mistake, so I hope the Cubs do it
What is your rational on this? Just because it might be an expensive package?
I don't think it'll come close to depleting our stocked farm system. Hamels isn't just a move for this year, it's for the next 4. Which ties into the Cubs window.
It'll probably be Baez or Castro and 2-3 B level prospects. Outside of Baez and Happ, we really don't have place on the ML roster for most of the positional prospects.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:16 am to Toula
I have softened on my stance on the possibility of the Cubs trading for Hamels. It makes sense for them to do it, I guess, if that's who they ultimately really covet. If they don't have to give up any of the elite four prospects and they get Cole Hamels for the next 4 years, then the Cubs will win the Trade Deadline.
I just don't think the Phillies will accept anything less than one of the Cubs elite (Bryant/Schwarber/Russell/Torres/Soler) plus Baez/Castro and other #10-#20 Cubs ranked prospects.
I think the Phillies asking price won't come down and the Cubs will look elsewhere.
I just don't think the Phillies will accept anything less than one of the Cubs elite (Bryant/Schwarber/Russell/Torres/Soler) plus Baez/Castro and other #10-#20 Cubs ranked prospects.
I think the Phillies asking price won't come down and the Cubs will look elsewhere.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 8:17 am
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:40 am to The Sad Banana
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(Bryant/Schwarber/Russell/Torres/Soler) plus Baez/Castro
frick that.....They can take Baez/Castro/Lower prospect or they can kick rocks
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:44 am to The Sad Banana
We shall see. I think the only person on the ML roster that's touchable is Castro.
I really love Baez. Personally, I think we are better if we up the prospect package and include Castro instead of Baez. Russell to short and Baez at 2nd is an addition.
Castro, Almora, McKinney, Pierce Johnson
or
Castro, Alcantara, Vogelbach, Underwood
or
Castro, Torres, Johnson
:crossesfingers:
I really love Baez. Personally, I think we are better if we up the prospect package and include Castro instead of Baez. Russell to short and Baez at 2nd is an addition.
Castro, Almora, McKinney, Pierce Johnson
or
Castro, Alcantara, Vogelbach, Underwood
or
Castro, Torres, Johnson
:crossesfingers:
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:41 am to Toula
Does anyone else think it is not a good idea to push the trade deadline back?
I saw Manfred wanted to push it back again. I think that will cause less trades and less movement of players, the new reserve clause basically.
I saw Manfred wanted to push it back again. I think that will cause less trades and less movement of players, the new reserve clause basically.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:59 am to sms151t
Yeah it's fine where it is.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:06 am to OneMoreTime
They want to move it back to origianl date of August 31 from what I am understanding. (The non waiver trades)
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:40 am to sms151t
2nd week in August works for me
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:45 am to tduecen
I like the end of July as it tempts GM's and ownerships to decide if they are in or out.
I get both sides of issue, but as the fan in me, I like making moves.
I get both sides of issue, but as the fan in me, I like making moves.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:52 am to Toula
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It'll probably be Baez or Castro and 2-3 B level prospects
Highly doubt that. I don't think the phillies will be swayed by throwing in B prospects. And i don't see any NL team really clamoring for vogs.
Shavdev sharma (i know i butchered that) suggested it would take a package with soler as the centerpiece.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 11:54 am
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:56 am to The Sad Banana
quote:
I have softened on my stance on the possibility of the Cubs trading for Hamels.
Of the elite pitching options he makes the most sense.
David price makes none, so if they are going to go the route of an elite arm, then hamels it is.
as for the packages/asking price, i agree with you.
if the cubs are going to trade for hamels they should do it before tomorrow. Get's us an extra start with him, and basically assures that we win saturday because god knows who they'd call up to replace him.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 7/24/15 at 12:27 pm to piggidyphish
Some rumors from today: LINK
quote:Justin Upton and Craig Kimbrel maybe?
The Astros “aren’t done” after acquiring Scott Kazmir yesterday, per Stark. The team is still hunting for bullpen upgrades (GM Jeff Luhnow’s stated preference has been to add a “flamethrower,” if he upgrades the ‘pen at all) as well as corner outfield bats.
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There’s a sense among some clubs that tomorrow’s Cole Hamels start could have a great influence on his trade market, it seems, as Stark quotes one executive saying, “He’s pitched in the playoffs and World Series. But for that front office, this may be the biggest start he’s ever had.” The Phillies‘ ace has been torched in each of his past two starts.
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The Padres are listening to offers on their entire rotation, but they “really want to move” both James Shields and Andrew Cashner, Stark hears from other teams. Shields’ name has surfaced as an unexpected trade candidate in recent weeks, and it sounds like San Diego is very open to moving Shields’ backloaded deal. A team taking on Shields would need to be willing to commit three years and $64MM to him, barring financial help from the Padres, but there’s also the chance that Shields could opt out of the final two years of his contract. With a strong 2016 performance, he may feel that he can do better than the final $45MM he’s guaranteed over the 2017-18 seasons.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 7/24/15 at 12:29 pm to piggidyphish
I honestly think whoever trades for Hamels will come to deeply regret it.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 12:37 pm to DallasTiger11
Depends really... I mean over the last couple of years he has been an ace, and how many times does a young (31) lefty who is an ace hi the market?
Now could his recent performances be due to stress/injury? I mean he owns a 3.09 post season ERA over 81.2 innings so he has gotten it done in the postseason.
Now could his recent performances be due to stress/injury? I mean he owns a 3.09 post season ERA over 81.2 innings so he has gotten it done in the postseason.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 12:39 pm to tduecen
Yeah, it's weird. The Phillies are willing to pay some of his salary so it means someone can get Hamels for around the same type of deal that Kazmir - a LHP around the same age with less big game experience and a much more sketchy injury history - will likely sign in the offseason.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 12:58 pm to Jwho77
If they are willing to pay then they are expecting a haul of prospects...
Phillies probably don't want Castro since they is a salary dump by the Cubs who regret giving him the contract. So they probably want at least 2 of the top 10 Cubs prospects.... Almora, Edwards Jr, Torres plus a few are are not as highly acclaimed. Of course they could want 1 of the MLB ready young players as well such as Solar or Schwarber as the centerpiece.
Phillies probably don't want Castro since they is a salary dump by the Cubs who regret giving him the contract. So they probably want at least 2 of the top 10 Cubs prospects.... Almora, Edwards Jr, Torres plus a few are are not as highly acclaimed. Of course they could want 1 of the MLB ready young players as well such as Solar or Schwarber as the centerpiece.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:00 pm to Jwho77
quote:I would be ok with Latos, I think he would provide depth and he can have ace type of days.
More rumors:
The Blue Jays remain in “active discussions” with the White Sox about right-hander Jeff Samardzija, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (Twitter link). The Jays have been said to have “strong” interest in adding Samardzija, a potential free agent at the end of the season. Upgrading the pitching staff is the Blue Jays’ top priority in the week leading up to the trade deadline, and Samardzija, whose eight-inning gem on Thursday dropped his ERA to 3.91, would certainly do that. Over his past eight outings, Samardzija has a 2.55 ERA, and he’s lasted at least seven innings in each of those contests. As Peter Gammons pointed out earlier today on Twitter, for a team with bullpen woes in addition to rotation troubles, adding a pitcher that is capable of effectively working deep into games should carry even greater appeal.
If the Tigers do end up selling, the Blue Jays will have interest in closer Joakim Soria, tweets Anthony Fenech of the Detroit News. Soria would be a pure rental, as he’s a free agent at the end of the year. He’s earning $7MM and has posted an even 3.00 ERA with 7.8 K/9 and 2.5 BB/9 in his 39 innings this season, though he’s also had an unusually difficult time with home runs, which could make pitching at the Rogers Centre a challenge.
While the Blue Jays made a “big push” to land Carlos Carrasco from the Indians, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (Twitter link), the trade simply “didn’t get done.” Cleveland isn’t necessarily motivated to trade a starter, though they’re also not entirely ruling out the possibility.
The Yankees have shown at least some interest in Marlins righty Mat Latos, Joe Frisaro of MLB.com reports on Twitter. They join a growing list of clubs that have shown some inclination to take a chance on Latos’s resurgence and past success. New York has given public indication that it is not lining up any major moves, but it would be surprising if it does not at least make a few acquisitions at areas of need, and rotation depth could certainly make sense.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:16 pm to tduecen
quote:
salary dump by the Cubs who regret giving him the contract.
Eh that's a little strong. I think the cubs would sell low on him, but I think they're also expecting some value because they do believe that he can return to form (2014).
But you're certainly right that dangling castro isn't going to make anyone jump. He's pretty worthless right now.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:22 pm to piggidyphish
quote:He is owed 56m (including team option) over the next 5 years. Last year was a bit of a bounce back year in terms of plate production but was it a mirage? I mean 2013 and this year have been horrible to say the least. He is striking out a lot, no longer productive on the bases, he has never taken a lot of walks, and defensively he has been sub-par.
Eh that's a little strong. I think the cubs would sell low on him, but I think they're also expecting some value because they do believe that he can return to form (2014).
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