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re: MLB Trade Deadline News: Mets get Cespedes, Cubs Hunter Padres LOL

Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:31 pm to
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It's not arbitrary. It was proven through the Ironman Sports Medicine Institute that a pitcher is who he is for the year after 60 innings. It was proven through thorough research, testing, and statistical information.

It's science.

link?
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:32 pm to
Cardianls should of made moves the past 2 years for bench help, especially a guy with pop.

they have come into playoffs not hitting and nothing on the bench to give a spark. They got lucky the pitching kept Dodgers off the board.

Reynolds gives them that now, but they need another bat, possibly some one to play 1b. Adams is not the future.

Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:32 pm to
It's not a need though, as a world series favorite with best record all year there is no reason to trade away top prospects, team is title ready as constructed. No need to wager more of the future when you're set as is.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:33 pm to
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do you know what arbitrary means? Or do you now just understand the rule?


for him to qualify for an ERA title, he'll have to pitch in at least 162 innings.

for him, right now, to qualify for the league leaders in ERA, he has to have thrown 96 IP.


technically, those are the facts.
It's arbitrary because why does the number of innings have to be tied to the number of games?

There is no logical reason as to why the number of innings has to equal the number of games other than that someone decided it would be a simple way to have a cut-off point.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:37 pm to
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There is increasing action on Marlins relieverSteve Cishek, as MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro and Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald report that there are multiple clubs involved — some with more apparent interest than the previously-reported Cardinals.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:39 pm to
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It's arbitrary because why does the number of innings have to be tied to the number of games?

There is no logical reason as to why the number of innings has to equal the number of games other than that someone decided it would be a simple way to have a cut-off point.



because that is the qualifier mandated by the MLB to win the ERA title.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:39 pm to
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It's not a need though
I would find 1B a need, Reynolds hasn't been good all year. Matt Carpentar is struggling this year, and do you really trust Grichuck in CF (sure you do because you never see a flaw in the Cardinals)

Pitching has really been the greatest asset to the Cardinals this season. Cardinals get on base but they rank 18th in slugging, 18th in runs scored, 8th in hits, 25th in home runs, 17th in RBI. So they have a need for an offensive producer.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:39 pm to
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because that is the qualifier mandated by the MLB to win the ERA title.


Exactly. That's in the rule book.

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:40 pm to
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because that is the qualifier mandated by the MLB to win the ERA title.

Nobody is talking about winning the ERA title.

And even though the MLB came up with the rule, that doesn't mean the rule isn't arbitrary.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65787 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:41 pm to
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and do you really trust Grichuck in CF

Good god yes.
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I would find 1B a need


Right, a cheap bench bat, you said major trade/blockbuster. Acquiring an Adam Lind or Cishek is whatever, the norm.

This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103014 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:41 pm to
who gets the boot from the 25 man today to activate Kazmir?

Candidates…

Hoes
Singleton (not likely)
Sipp (would have to be DFA)
Fields (would have to be DFA)
Qualls (would have to be DFA)
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278285 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:43 pm to
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Nobody is talking about winning the ERA title.




talking about league leaders in ERA is the same thing. He doesn't qualify yet. Not that he hasn't been good. HE just doesn't qualify.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:44 pm to
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Right, a cheap bench bat, you said major trade/blockbuster. Acquiring an Adam Lind or Cishek is whatever, the norm.

when Ben Zorbrist is the best IF player available there is no blockbuster trade involving a infielder unless some how the Rockies trade Troy.

OF and pitching are the big names this deadline.
Biggest players that can play 1B are Lind, Chisenall, Morse....

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:45 pm to
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Qualls (would have to be DFA)
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65787 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:47 pm to
Exactly. Not a need, other than a bullpen arm and platoon 1B like Lind.

Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27422 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:52 pm to
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I would find 1B a need


I would like this.

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and do you really trust Grichuck in CF (sure you do because you never see a flaw in the Cardinals)


If the Cardinals didnt trust Grichuk in CF he wouldn't be there. Had to get your cheap shot in there...
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:10 pm to
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If the Cardinals didnt trust Grichuk in CF he wouldn't be there. Had to get your cheap shot in there...

They keep trotting out Mark Reynolds at 1B. Didn't they just call up a guy to replace him... Grichuk is a young guy and having a good season at this point but he is a guy who never really put up numbers in the minors outside of power.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:11 pm to
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Didn't they just call up a guy to replace him...


Piscotty I believe... more of an OF, but they were trying him out at 1B.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:19 pm to
Piscotty is more of a RF, and Reynolds was brought in for Bench pop, not to be a starter. He's being exposed.

They need to quit bullshitting and stop the Adams stuff(he's still the starter going forward). 1b is a serious need, they need an every day 1b.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:24 pm to
A guy i'd like to see them look at, is Stephen Vogt. Can play C, can play 1b,etc. he's 28, but would give them a ton of options.

He's having a good year, but Oakland might be interested in dealing.
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