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re: MLB Top 10 players right now

Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:29 pm to
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Todd Frazier has had a full season OPS over .800 ONCE in his career (.807 in 2015). This is while playing in some pretty good parks for hitting in Cincy and Chicago.

Both of Arenado's full seasons he's posted a road OPS of over .830.


So we aren't taking much of a difference, are we.

Frazier with an elite glove is a top 30 player, not a top 10 player. A player with those road splits cannot be a top 10 player, regardlsss of how many excuses yall have for him . Pour soul has to hit in coors and adjust on the road; oh the horror!!
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:36 pm to
Don't know how you can argue with the list. It's based on statistics and data done by sabermetrics.
Posted by BobCoot
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:40 pm to
If Arenado was a free agent this winter he would easily get 250 million. He's a flat out star.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:51 pm to
Everything in baseball is arguable, bubba
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:53 pm to
He prob would command that. We do know one thing, he is worth more in Coors. 81 other games out of the year he's not close to being the same guy
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 2:09 pm to
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Should have won it last year


If you switch Altuve and Trout straight up before the beginning of last season then the Astros make the playoffs.

I guarantee it.
Posted by DallasTiger45
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:06 pm to
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So we aren't taking much of a difference, are we.


I mean, it's 62 points of OPS when we compare Arenado's road splits to Frazier's overall splits. This is with Frazier playing in a hitter's park. That's pretty significant.

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A player with those road splits cannot be a top 10 player, regardlsss of how many excuses yall have for him . Pour soul has to hit in coors and adjust on the road; oh the horror!!


If you want to ignore the difference in pitch movement in Coors vs a regular park, then be my guest. Seems like it directly contradicts your reasoning for him raking at Coors, though.

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:33 pm to
Trout
Harper
Kershaw
Matte
Betts
Seager
Sanchez
Goldy
Might
Votto
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:48 pm to
Arenado's 2016 road OPS was .832, not the .762 you posted back on page 1.

He is also trending up in virtually everything.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 4:52 pm
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:50 pm to
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Trout
Harper
Kershaw
Matte
Betts
Seager
Sanchez
Goldy
Might
Votto


The beauty of baseball... none of these lists are wrong.

Well... except for the guy that says Altuve should be ranked higher than Trout. Other than that -- everybody's list is holds validity.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 4:55 pm to
I'm not contradicting anything. But listen to what you are saying. You want to give him a pass cause he has to adjust when he goes on the road in parks that the rest of the league plays in nightly. That isn't a top 10 player, I'm sorry

That's like me being a beast on a 8' basketball hoop, but when I play regulation 10', I'm just not as good. Then going back and making the excuse that I can't adjust to the 10' because 8' is just what I'm used to
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 4:58 pm
Posted by BobCoot
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 5:01 pm to
He was worth 6.5 bWAR last year which accounts for Park Factors and such. That alone makes him a top 10 player. He's probably the best defensive third baseman in the entire game
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 5:24 pm to
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The beauty of baseball... none of these lists are wrong.



I would humbly suggest that any list of the top 10 players that omits the reigning NL MVP is wrong.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 5:30 pm
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
10571 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:08 pm to
As rookies last year go, I knew Sanchez would be on the list but I was surprised to see Trea Turner on there at 45 after only a half-season. Can't wait to see what he does in a full year. My favorite guy right now.
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