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re: Lol at Iowa being above Notre Dame and Mich St.

Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:21 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:21 am to
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so no.




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Now, if we somehow (with a miracle) beat both FSU AND Alabama in these next 2 weeks, and get left out?

Yeah, then I would be pissed.


If Iowa wins out, their resume will be as good or better than Florida's would be.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:25 am to
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If Iowa wins out, their resume will be as good or better than Florida's would be.
I agree. They will have 2 really good wins.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:26 am to
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I agree. They will have 2 really good wins.


Exactly, and that's all that's needed this year.

I'm not saying Iowa is so impressive this year, I just don't think there is a "resume" that stands out more than any other this season. Weird year in college football.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:27 am to
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That is pretty decent.



pls go peasant, its awful


strength of schedule

Team Sagarin Massey A&H Colley Bill. Avg.

Iowa 62 53 49 67 76 61

Alabama 8 3 24 12 2 10

Notre Dame 29 8 29 38 24 26

Oklahoma 32 7 36 49 32 31


This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 9:31 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:28 am to
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Massey


Is this the same Massey that still has Ohio State at 4? I'm on board.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:29 am to
that is the SOS

the poll Kosmo posted is a conglomerate of all computer polls, in that Ohio State is #4
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:30 am to
It doesn't matter where Iowa is ranked at all. If they win out, they are in. If they don't, then they are out. Really simple and no reason to get all butthurt about Iowa's ranking. If Iowa or MSU get the CFP, then the real controversy will be over OK or ND.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:31 am to
Those are some crappy systems btw that use preseason polls. Using CURRENT Top 25 teams and 8+ win teams, they are on par...which is perfectly acceptable, especially when you factor in the fact that are UNDEFEATED.

I hate SOS arguments. If you are in a P5 conference, and play P5 OOC games, you deserve to be rewarded.

But according to you all a 6-6 team who played the #1 SOS deserves some sort of consideration too.

LOSSES COUNT.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:35 am to
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I hate SOS arguments


translation: i hate math
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:36 am to
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Lol at Iowa being above Notre Dame and Mich St.
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I agree. They will have 2 really good wins.


Exactly, and that's all that's needed this year.

I'm not saying Iowa is so impressive this year, I just don't think there is a "resume" that stands out more than any other this season. Weird year in college football.
There is a lot of parity in CFB right now. Not as much as CBB, but still a good bit. There are going to be a ton of 9-3 and 8-4 teams. Look at the Pac-12, AAC and SEC. It is really hard to have more than 2 wins on your schedule from top 25 teams.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:37 am to
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It doesn't matter where Iowa is ranked at all. If they win out, they are in. If they don't, then they are out. Really simple and no reason to get all butthurt about Iowa's ranking



sure, of course, but its the principle.

teams with shite schedules shouldnt be rewarded in the poll until theyve proven something.

until Iowa wins the B1G they should not be in the top 4 (if the committee wants consistency)
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:39 am to
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sure, of course, but its the principle.

teams with shite schedules shouldnt be rewarded in the poll until theyve proven something.

until Iowa wins the B1G they should not be in the top 4 (if the committee wants consistency)

The polls right now mean nothing anyways.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11713 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:43 am to
Who is Iowa's top win...Northwestern? A team that is ranked below Notre Dame's highest ranked win right now. Can't discredit Navy then act like beating Northwestern is some amazing feat, either they are both solid wins or they are both overrated wins. Other than that Iowa has beat two teams with a pulse, Wisconsin and Pitt.

I watched the Wisconsin game and they are lucky that Wisconsin's offense was sleep walking and had numerous chances in the red zone and either turned it over or couldn't finish the drive. That may be a testament to their defense, but ask LSU you won't win against a top 15 team with your QB going 9/21 passing.

Pitt is a common opponent between Iowa and Notre Dame, and Notre Dame destroyed Pitt (though the touchdown with two minutes left made it look a lot closer than it actually was). For comparison Notre Dame put up over 100 more yards and Kizer accounted for 6 total touchdowns, twice the amount Iowa scored as a team against them.

Iowa may be undefeated but they aren't a good team. Hopefully Nebraska pulls the upset, but if not MSU might make OSU's demolition of Wisconsin last year in the Big 10 championship look like a mercy killing.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:50 am to
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Who is Iowa's top win...Northwestern?


That is a pretty good win. A 30 point blowout over the #16 team in the country.
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they are lucky that Wisconsin's offense was sleep walking

But they found a way to WIN.
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Pitt is a common opponent between Iowa and Notre Dame, and Notre Dame destroyed Pitt (though the touchdown with two minutes left made it look a lot closer than it actually was). For comparison Notre Dame put up over 100 more yards and Kizer accounted for 6 total touchdowns, twice the amount Iowa scored as a team against them.


That is a decent point to distinguish the 2 when they are have comparable W/L records. Right now though, they don't.

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Iowa may be undefeated but they aren't a good team


Yes they are. Objectively, they are. I have no horse in this race. But I have watched Iowa, and they are good. Not flashy by any means, but definitely solid.

Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:50 am to
What is hurting ND are the performances against lesser opponents recently. Struggling to score against Wake and BC doesn't look good. The fact still remains that unless there is a little chaos, the B1G and SEC have a spot secured. If there is all out chaos, there is no telling what teams will get in.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10052 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:52 am to
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Do you live in a cave?

The post was about Notre Dame's #15 SOS, you fricking dolt.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:53 am to
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But I have watched Iowa, and they are good.


oh the classic eye ball test against one of the worst schedules in the modern football era.


teams full of 2 and 3 star scrubs with little NFL talent are not good


again, they are favored over Nebraska by one point - nebraska has six fricking losses (JUST LOL)
This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 9:56 am
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
8851 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:56 am to
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teams full of 2 and 3 star scrubs with little NFL talent are not good


So now they aren't even good? That is absurd.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16427 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:56 am to
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Iowa would finish 4th in the sec west


Probably 4th in Big XII also. They benefitted greatly by not facing the good teams in their conference. I think they lose at Nebraska this week.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10052 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 9:57 am to
What is the baseline for these SOS metrics you tout?

Take me through the formula.
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