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re: Lebron seems to be taking over in crunch time.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:45 pm to oleyeller
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:45 pm to oleyeller
i look at it this way.... he's not the "next" Jordan.... he's the first LeBron...
Jordan and James will go down as 1a and 1b in the GOAT discussion.... their respective games are vastly different so it's hard to compare them with the exact same stat lines, measurements, etc..... James is not the dominant scorer that Jordan was, just like Jordan was not the facilitator that James is.....
personally, i'm just happy that i can say i remember watching both of them in my lifetime....
Jordan and James will go down as 1a and 1b in the GOAT discussion.... their respective games are vastly different so it's hard to compare them with the exact same stat lines, measurements, etc..... James is not the dominant scorer that Jordan was, just like Jordan was not the facilitator that James is.....
personally, i'm just happy that i can say i remember watching both of them in my lifetime....
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:45 pm to KillerNut9
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All I'm saying is I can see why neutral people don't like him.
I seriously doubt neutral people give a shite about the petty reasons you listed
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:51 pm to UncleBlazer
I think this board's history provides plenty examples of petty reasons people don't like him. 
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:52 pm to chRxis
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i look at it this way.... he's not the "next" Jordan.... he's the first LeBron...
Jordan and James will go down as 1a and 1b in the GOAT discussion.... their respective games are vastly different so it's hard to compare them with the exact same stat lines, measurements, etc..... James is not the dominant scorer that Jordan was, just like Jordan was not the facilitator that James is.....
personally, i'm just happy that i can say i remember watching both of them in my lifetime....
This is very well put. I feel exactly the same.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 11:34 pm to chRxis
Perfectly said. Exactly spot on. 2 totally different players
They already are top 2 ever I think. And LBJ has a good 5-6 years left. That is what scary.
They already are top 2 ever I think. And LBJ has a good 5-6 years left. That is what scary.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 11:40 pm to The Pirate King
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I've never seen a sports star people were so anxious to name the GOAT. That's media, fans, and general viewers
It's not as much LeBron as it is out current "NOW" society, everything that just happened was THE BEST EVER or the worst ever and every player to win something big is automatically THE GOAT... It's annoying but it's just the way it is
However, LeBron is one of very few who actually has merit to be in the conversation
Posted on 5/12/15 at 11:41 pm to chRxis
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i look at it this way.... he's not the "next" Jordan.... he's the first LeBron... Jordan and James will go down as 1a and 1b in the GOAT discussion.... their respective games are vastly different so it's hard to compare them with the exact same stat lines, measurements, etc..... James is not the dominant scorer that Jordan was, just like Jordan was not the facilitator that James is..... personally, i'm just happy that i can say i remember watching both of them in my lifetime....
How dare you bring rational thoughts to this convo!!! You can only be the best ever or worst ever of all time!!
Posted on 5/12/15 at 11:43 pm to chRxis
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i look at it this way.... he's not the "next" Jordan.... he's the first LeBron...
Jordan and James will go down as 1a and 1b in the GOAT discussion.... their respective games are vastly different so it's hard to compare them with the exact same stat lines, measurements, etc..... James is not the dominant scorer that Jordan was, just like Jordan was not the facilitator that James is.....
personally, i'm just happy that i can say i remember watching both of them in my lifetime....
Dude, I totally agree. LeBron >>>>>>>>>>>>> MJ
Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:43 am to chRxis
Not only are their games different...the era in which they played is VASTLY different.
Could you imagine Jordan's poker gatherings after games being plastered all over twitter?
How about him punching a teammate in practice during this era of social media and this commissioner?
He'd be lambasted today for taking free throws with his eyes shut.
Two different eras. Two different players.
Could you imagine Jordan's poker gatherings after games being plastered all over twitter?
How about him punching a teammate in practice during this era of social media and this commissioner?
He'd be lambasted today for taking free throws with his eyes shut.
Two different eras. Two different players.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 5:48 am to dcrews
my problem isn't with the Jordan James debate on the court. Let's forget the fact that Jurdan didn't win anything until a top 20 player EVER reached his full capabilities by his side. Jordan and Russell were the two greatest ever. Neither lost in their prime. And neither lost when it counted most.
That said, if we re talking about athletes OFF the court, James is superior to Jordan in almost every way. Jordan was feared and detested by teammates. He was a womanizer, cigar smoking, employee berating, gambling addict, who stayed up all night, who famously refused to take stands in all matters social and political in the name of protecting his dollar (granted different social climate). Lebron on the other hand, appears to have friends and is beloved around the NBA. He married his HS sweetheart. He s involved in his hometown charities.
Jordan killed two coaches before getting Phil Jackson. One of them is in all time great. Lebron has never gotten a coach fired. Even one (cough, mike brown) to be WAY over his head to the finals.
Jordan was a sociopath. Still is. The jury is out on Lebron. But if we re talking about role models? It's not even close.
That said, if we re talking about athletes OFF the court, James is superior to Jordan in almost every way. Jordan was feared and detested by teammates. He was a womanizer, cigar smoking, employee berating, gambling addict, who stayed up all night, who famously refused to take stands in all matters social and political in the name of protecting his dollar (granted different social climate). Lebron on the other hand, appears to have friends and is beloved around the NBA. He married his HS sweetheart. He s involved in his hometown charities.
Jordan killed two coaches before getting Phil Jackson. One of them is in all time great. Lebron has never gotten a coach fired. Even one (cough, mike brown) to be WAY over his head to the finals.
Jordan was a sociopath. Still is. The jury is out on Lebron. But if we re talking about role models? It's not even close.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:19 am to ReauxlTide222
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Bet Jordan would never miss a shot with a lead or with five minutes left or ever.
Jordan never missed any shot, ever. Didn't you know?
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:53 am to chRxis
I'd argue that Jordan has proven he could be that type of player LeBron is. Early on his career he did at least. During the championship runs, he didn't need to with pippen being able to do a great job
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