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re: KC Royals release new renderings of proposed $2 billion baseball stadium
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:19 am to Dairy Sanders
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:19 am to Dairy Sanders
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One game vs. 7 game series. The NFL is the undisputed king of American sports so again, whatever point you were trying to make is a complete failure. Like you.
You’re clearly a big baseball fanboi and it hurts you that someone is looking at the decline in the popularity of the sport objectively.
To your one game point; there isn’t a single World Series game in over 40 years that ranks in the top 5 all time most viewed baseball games. That means the sport can’t get anywhere near where it was even with another 120,000,000 people existing in America to market toward. Only a moron would think there is nothing to see there. Congratulations.
Annual TV streaming contracts
Average franchise value
This post was edited on 2/15/24 at 9:34 am
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:32 am to The Third Leg
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Nah, I love NYC and Chicago, but LA I could handle never seeing again. I like a lot of cities. Pittsburgh, Nashville, Portland, Seattle, Boston, DC, ATL, Charlotte, Austin, Dallas, Phoenix is even ok. KC just does nothing for me. The Midwest cities are usually meh.
To each his own, I’d choose KC to live in over several of those having only spent a few days there. Portland in particular fricking sucks
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:33 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
the area surrounding portland is great. portland itself is depressing as frick.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:36 am to The Third Leg
How does any of that prove the sport is dying?
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:40 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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How does any of that prove the sport is dying?
If baseball were a city, it would be a rust belt metro area that was once cherished and great and is now just there, sucking what is left out of the past. Baseball used to be wildly popular and well followed. Casual fans would tune in for the World Series. They now struggle to compete with NBA, a league playing half the games, in terms of TV money and franchise worth.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:42 am to The Third Leg
Well baseball isn’t a city. Dying implies the franchises and league will go bankrupt relatively soon. How long off do you think that is?
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:46 am to Wally Sparks
$2 billion for a baseball team most people don't care about? Insane.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:47 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
“dying” is obvious use of hyperbole. I don’t think it is going to go away, there’s too many people in America for it to totally die and baseball fills the summer void for ESPN. It’s a decent family activity. But baseball is very low on the list of American priorities. I know few people that are really into baseball and I live in a city that just won the World Series that nobody watched.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 9:50 am to The Third Leg
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“dying” is obvious use of hyperbole. I don’t think it is going to go away, there’s too many people in America for it to totally die and baseball fills the summer void for ESPN. It’s a decent family activity. But baseball is very low on the list of American priorities. I know few people that are really into baseball and I live in a city that just won the World Series that nobody watched.
If you don’t like the sport you can just not read or post in the thread
Posted on 2/15/24 at 10:18 am to Nutriaitch
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MLB will never catch the NFL in money or popularity,
Unless CTE eventually kills football.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 10:20 am to The Third Leg
I think alot of it has to do with the teams involved. Not many people outside of Texas and Phoenix (and there likely arent many there that really care about the dbacks) care about either team, and there wasnt a lot of star fire power on display on either roster. It looks like the ratings in dallas metro actually werent that bad.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 10:21 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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If you don’t like the sport you can just not read or post in the thread
It’s a thread about a bottom feeder franchise from a tier 3 city spending $2Bn on a stadium to home a team that plays a sport that has been in popularity decline for a full generation. I think these points are worth discussing.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 11:16 am to The Third Leg
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Only a moron would think there is nothing to see there.
MLB.com - Attendance up
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ATTENDANCE
The increase in MLB's total attendance in 2023 is the largest growth for a non-COVID-impacted year since the league expanded to 30 teams in 1998.
Forbes.co - MLB TV ratings increase
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MLB Regional Sports Networks See 7% Gain For 2023 Season
and again, it still draws in the 2nd most revenue of any professional sports league on the entire planet.
more than the NBA, more than any of Europes soccer leagues, more than hockey, etc.
and saw the most growth of any other league in America
Major U.S. Sports Leagues Pull In Record $6.7B in Ad Revenue
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MLB saw the most growth, with a 23% increase due to more fan engagement and new sponsorship opportunities through jersey patches;
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You’re clearly a big baseball fanboi and it hurts you that someone is looking at the decline in the popularity of the sport objectively.
objectively, MLB is growing. Which literally is the exact opposite of dying.
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To your one game point; there isn’t a single World Series game in over 40 years that ranks in the top 5 all time most viewed baseball games.
and?
the sport as whole is making more money and being watched by more people now than ever before.
comparing any one game to any one game (especially in a sport that has played close to 200,000 games in its history) is colossally stupid.
prior to this season, the last several Super Bowls drew lower ratings than they were pulling in 7-10 years ago.
does than mean the NFL was dying?
of course not. only an idiot would look at JUST those numbers to draw their conclusion.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 11:22 am to The Third Leg
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a sport that has been in popularity decline for a full generation.
25 of the 30 MLB teams had higher average home attendance than the highest average home attendance in the NBA.
the top 5 MLB teams just about doubled the average attendance for the top NBA team.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 11:33 am to Nutriaitch
Well that should be expected since stadiums are bigger than arenas.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 11:38 am to GoGators1995
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Well that should be expected since stadiums are bigger than arenas.
why do you think the stadiums are bigger?
if NBA teams thought they could pull in 40k on average, you don't think they would build arenas big enough to house them?
or do you really think every NBA team has basically said "man we could sell twice as many tickets if we wanted to, but nah, I'm good"?
Posted on 2/15/24 at 12:00 pm to Wally Sparks
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Unless CTE eventually kills football.
That is what many don’t understand. CTE is a very big problem for football and also to soccer from headers. One concussion is one too many and I don’t think anything short of playing in bubble wrap can stop them. Injuries are a part of sport, but brain damage is bad.
Posted on 2/15/24 at 3:22 pm to Wally Sparks
$2 billion for a horrible team with few fans?
Posted on 2/15/24 at 7:57 pm to Pedro
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the area surrounding portland is great. portland itself is depressing as frick.
Portland isn't so bad if you can overlook the zombie apocalypse
Posted on 2/16/24 at 7:43 am to Nutriaitch
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it still draws in the 2nd most revenue of any professional sports league on the entire planet. more than the NBA, more than any of Europes soccer leagues, more than hockey, etc.
Do you think that might be because they play twice as many games as the NBA and have stadiums that are twice as big?
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