re: Kawhi Leonard a Top 5 player?

Posted by Boomshockalocka

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Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:21 pm to Epic Cajun

Nut'n honey

Posted by slackster

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Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:45 pm to Dire Wolf

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he averages 57.7 a game in Points+points off assist which if he finishes the season today that will be an NBA record

to say he should not be a MVP favorite is a joke

Westbrook is about to average a triple double, leads the league in PER, VORP, and Box plus/minus. Hell, his box plus/minus is going to shatter the previous record, and the difference between he and Harden at #2 is the difference between Harden and Draymond Green at #14. Houston has the better team, and Harden is deserving, but Westbrook has had the move MVP-like season.

Posted by BowlJackson

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Posted on 3/28/17 at 9:15 pm to Duggars23

Top 5 of all-time, yes

Posted by RogerTempleton

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Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:04 pm to Chad504boy

I am saying your statement is incorrect.

Posted by CocoLoco

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Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:34 pm to SabiDojo

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I wonder where this board puts Anthony Davis.

He should be 5th-7th on everyones list.

Lebron
KD
Curry
Harden
Kawhi
Westbrook
Davis
Chris Paul

Posted by sms151t

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Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:21 pm to Duggars23

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Kawhi Leonard a Top 5 player?

Who really cares?
Does he get the job done? Yes.
Does he make his team better? Yes.
Has he come up big in big situations? Yes.

Posted by TbirdSpur2010

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Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:23 pm to redfishfan

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Kawhi type guys are more valuable in the postseason when it matters.

Forgive rocketfan for not being familiar with this echelon of player.

They haven't witnessed such since the Clinton administration.

Posted by Boomshockalocka

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Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:31 pm to TbirdSpur2010

Yea the player who since the big three has been past the prime is 1-2 in playoff series.

Posted by shel311

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Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:35 pm to Boomshockalocka

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Yea the player who since the big three has been past the prime is 1-2 in playoff series.

Boom thinks Manu and Duncan were in their prime when Kawhi won a Finals MVP.

Posted by Hamma1122

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Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:37 pm to Duggars23

Absolutely

Posted by Boomshockalocka

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Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:39 pm to shel311

Ok we'll go with

"Since they were good enough to be key cogs on a title team."

Either way, doesn't make Leonard look all that impressive in postseason.

Posted by shel311

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Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:41 pm to Boomshockalocka

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Either way, doesn't make Leonard look all that impressive in postseason.

It's like he doesn't even have a Finals MVP!!!

Posted by Boomshockalocka

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Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:42 pm to shel311

he had Tons of help. Tons more than he has now. Since those guys weren't championship caliber, 1-2.

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Posted by shel311

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Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:45 pm to Boomshockalocka

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he had Tons of help. Tons more than he has now. Since those guys weren't championship caliber, 1-2.

So MVP awards are diluted when you have more help

Got it

Posted by Boomshockalocka

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Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:46 pm to Boomshockalocka

Funny little nugget I can add is I was listening to David Locke podcast today and him and the guest both said the current version of Spurs are a regular season team. They were slightly tactful when They said it bc they admittedly didn't want to criticize pop. But the point was clear.

Posted by Boomshockalocka

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Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:47 pm to shel311

his MVP is what it is. We not diluting it. Just saying that he won't be in a position to win another one bc he doesn't have the help he had back then.