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Jon Gruden perplexed about Marcus Mariota not being the consensus #1 prospect
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:14 pm
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“I don’t understand why [Mariota] isn’t the No. 1 player in this draft on Mel Kiper’s Big Board,” Gruden said, via Rotoworld.
Gruden disagrees with those who think Mariota is a product of Oregon’s offense and not a fit for the NFL.
“I don’t know anybody in this draft that can do for a football team what Mariota can do,” Gruden said. “He can read the field. That whole thing about Oregon being a no-huddle, dive-option team, that is just a narrative resulting from a lack of information. The Ducks run a lot of pro-style concepts. Mariota does a lot with the protections. I’ve seen him throw the ball with touch and timing in tight windows.” The former Bucs coach points out that Mariota is the same size as Jameis Winston but runs 4.52 forty. He is incredibly elusive, and man, is he a playmaker and a great competitor. I see him functioning in the pocket, out of the pocket, and if you want to run a zone-read, he’ll rip the defense apart. He is like Russell Wilson, only he is 6-4.”
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:15 pm to Bench McElroy
In Gruden, I trust
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:16 pm to jeff5891
live by the sword, die by the sword...
but he would be pretty perfect for the Eagles offensive scheme
but he would be pretty perfect for the Eagles offensive scheme
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:16 pm to Bench McElroy
The majority of this board about to crash on you for posting something giving Mariota props.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:20 pm to Bench McElroy
Maybe that's why Gruden can't get a job.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:20 pm to Bench McElroy
I agree. I would take mariota at #1 no question but that's just me
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:20 pm to Bench McElroy
Let Cleveland give up 2 1st round picks for him. Headed for another Akili Smith in Ohio.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:22 pm to Bench McElroy
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TH03 perplexed about Jon Gruden perplexed about Marcus Mariota not being the consensus #1 prospect
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:26 pm to Bench McElroy
Mariota great at spyder 2 y banana
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:27 pm to The Boat
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Maybe that's why Gruden can't get a job.
I'd take him at LSU
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:32 pm to Bench McElroy
Gotta say, I don't quite get the Winston hype. Not because of any off the field stuff, but because he's slow and has a long, awkward release. Seriously, why does no one mention Winston's incredibly long and robotic looking wind up? If they do, I never hear it.
I think both guys have a lot of the attributes you look for in a QB, most importantly football IQ and leadership. Mariota is a better athlete with a quicker release. Can't say I know a ton about either of them going through their progressions other than what I've seen in a few games, but both scan the field quickly. Add in all the off-field stuff, and I really don't see why you'd take Winston. I thought RG3 was right there with Luck though, so I don't really know shite
I think both guys have a lot of the attributes you look for in a QB, most importantly football IQ and leadership. Mariota is a better athlete with a quicker release. Can't say I know a ton about either of them going through their progressions other than what I've seen in a few games, but both scan the field quickly. Add in all the off-field stuff, and I really don't see why you'd take Winston. I thought RG3 was right there with Luck though, so I don't really know shite
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:35 pm to Bench McElroy
Id take him at 1 if I needed a qb.. But I don't see him being worthy of trading multiple ones and other considerations Just to move up and grab him.. He has some questionable aspects to his game..
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:37 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:FIFY.
“I don’t understand why [Mariota] isn’t the No. 1 player in this draft on Mel Kiper’s Big Board, man” Gruden said, via Rotoworld.
Gruden disagrees with those who think Mariota is a product of Oregon’s offense and not a fit for the NFL.
“I don’t know anybody in this draft that can do for a football team what Mariota can do, man” Gruden said. “He can read the field. That whole thing about Oregon being a no-huddle, dive-option team, that is just a narrative resulting from a lack of information, man. The Ducks run a lot of pro-style concepts. Mariota does a lot with the protections, man. I’ve seen him throw the ball with touch and timing in tight windows.” The former Bucs coach points out that Mariota is the same size as Jameis Winston but runs 4.52 forty. He is incredibly elusive, and man, is he a playmaker and a great competitor, man. I see him functioning in the pocket, out of the pocket, and if you want to run a zone-read, he’ll rip the defense apart, man. He is like Russell Wilson, only he is 6-4.”
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:39 pm to TROLA
I don't know who he is yet, but the best quarterback of this draft will not be Winston, nor Mariota. That is my gut feeling, and the feeling is strong.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:40 pm to Bench McElroy
I heard somebody quote a stat that said his completion percentage drops 24% when throwing to his 2nd read (or subsequent reads). I've never heard that stat given on any other QB so I can't put it in context to compare others. Seems like a big drop especially against some of the shite defenses he faced, but who knows.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:52 pm to AlexLSU
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Seriously, why does no one mention Winston's incredibly long and robotic looking wind up? If they do, I never hear it.
You never hear that because it's an exaggerated statement. His release is a little goofy, kind of looks like he's throwing a baseball, but I bet if you put a timer on him it's about average in terms of delivery quickness. Your description gives me a tebow visual.
On mariotta, and this is a serious question, what qbs have played in that offense in college and had great nfl careers?
Posted on 4/29/15 at 9:59 pm to Bench McElroy
The more I watch Winston, the more I think he's gonna be a star, Pro Bowl level QB.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:04 pm to lob1284
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in that offense in college and had great nfl careers?
Oregons offense specifically? None.
But spread offenses? Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, Drew Brees I think even. To name a few.
Mariota may or may not be successful, but if you think it's because "no other Oregon QB's" have succeeded in the NFL, then that's a dumb stance to base your opinion on.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:09 pm to Bench McElroy
Has gruden ever said anything bad about a player? It seems like all he does is fluff up every player he talks about.
shite. He was even saying Jennings was a good QB when he called the Norte damne vs LSU game
shite. He was even saying Jennings was a good QB when he called the Norte damne vs LSU game
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:17 pm to Bench McElroy
Gruden says nice stuff about players all the time.
just watch Monday Night Football.
about the only time where he didn't have any cards to play was when Josh Freeman stunk up the field for the Vikings.
actually, I think he did question why in the hell they started and stuck with him the whole game.
so nevermind. In a way, he defended Freeman which I didn't disagree with really.
Gruden is just a super positive guy 90% of the time. Should be a real contrarian tomorrow night at the draft for all the fans carrying pitchforks out there.
same story, different year.
just watch Monday Night Football.
about the only time where he didn't have any cards to play was when Josh Freeman stunk up the field for the Vikings.
actually, I think he did question why in the hell they started and stuck with him the whole game.
so nevermind. In a way, he defended Freeman which I didn't disagree with really.
Gruden is just a super positive guy 90% of the time. Should be a real contrarian tomorrow night at the draft for all the fans carrying pitchforks out there.
same story, different year.
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