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re: Jeff Francoeur traded to the Mets
Posted on 7/10/09 at 6:58 pm to LSUsmartass
Posted on 7/10/09 at 6:58 pm to LSUsmartass
Church is average defensively and he is considered "slow" by some standards
I guess Minaya felt like doing something to shake up the malaise surrounding the team. FMart just got put on the 15day so even the subs for the subs are getting hurt. The Mets are literally punchless and are trying to manufacture runs with a AAAA lineup.
I am officially indifferent to this deal, but it doesn't say much that the Braves have to send cash with their starting RF to get the Mets starting RF with his .280BA/.332OBP/.375SLG/.790OPS
65H/2HR/22RB lines and 6 more years in age
I guess Minaya felt like doing something to shake up the malaise surrounding the team. FMart just got put on the 15day so even the subs for the subs are getting hurt. The Mets are literally punchless and are trying to manufacture runs with a AAAA lineup.
I am officially indifferent to this deal, but it doesn't say much that the Braves have to send cash with their starting RF to get the Mets starting RF with his .280BA/.332OBP/.375SLG/.790OPS
65H/2HR/22RB lines and 6 more years in age
This post was edited on 7/10/09 at 7:00 pm
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Posted on 7/10/09 at 6:59 pm to fightingtiger2335
quote:
what are you complaining about??
Trading him in the divison
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:00 pm to supatigah
i was loling at you silly
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:00 pm to supatigah
Something encouraging I just read is that Church is hitting something like .334 away from Citi with a .900+ OPS
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:07 pm to supatigah
MLB radio said minaya thinks Francouer is a better OF and that being RH he can hit for more power cause the LF porch is shorter than RF or something to that effect.
but for people saying this is a bad trade....really, who gives a frick about either of these guys? its not a make or break thing by any means
but for people saying this is a bad trade....really, who gives a frick about either of these guys? its not a make or break thing by any means
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:08 pm to Lester Earl
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really, who gives a frick about either of these guys? its not a make or break thing by any means
This was my initial thought, its more or less addition by subtraction
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:09 pm to lsutigersFTW
Atlanta radio has been wanting to get rid of Francoeur since last season. They've been screaming about it this year. This can't be seen as much of a surprise
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:10 pm to Ron Mexico
quote:
i was loling at you silly
your mama
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:12 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
MLB radio said minaya thinks Francouer is a better OF and that being RH he can hit for more power cause the LF porch is shorter than RF or something to that effect.
ehh
he has to put the bat on the ball first
quote:exactly
really, who gives a frick about either of these guys?
but I had hoped the mets would get more Latin in any trade moves they made <disappointed>
This post was edited on 7/10/09 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:14 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I'm glad about the trade, but im not jumping up and down.
really, who gives a frick about either of these guys? its not a make or break thing by any means
Francoer was my favorite player in 2006-07, but he has just been pitiful the last 2 years. I think you could easily say that Francoer was the worst hitter out of the starters on the team. The Braves needed another bat, and instead of us going out and getting a great hitter, we got rid of a bad hitter. Ryan Church is a better hitter than francoer, so this is definitly a good trade.
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:15 pm to Ryan3232
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Ryan Church is a better hitter than francoer, so this is definitly a good trade
maybe so but he is 34, he is a step down defensively and he has very little power so I don't know how good of a trade it really is for either team
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:18 pm to supatigah
rob neyer killing minaya:
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Wow. Church must really have worn out his welcome with the Mets. Since coming off the DL in early June, Church's line is .290/.336/.402 ... far from good for a corner outfielder, but decent enough compared to most of the Mets' other outfielders ... and of course a far sight prettier than Francoeur's .250/.282/.352 line for the season.
Defense? According to UZR, there's little difference between them and Church might actually be better.
Handedness? With Fernando Tatis and Gary Sheffield, the Mets already had two righty-hitting corner outfielders; now they've got three.
So, let's review: The Braves got a decent hitter and fielder who bats left-handed, and thus can platoon (or semi-platoon) with Matt Diaz in right field. The Mets got ... what, exactly? If you figure it out, drop a line to Jerry Manuel. He's going to need all the help he can get with this one.
Update: Awesome quote from Omar Minaya: "One thing we like about Francoeur is the amount of games that he plays."
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:19 pm to supatigah
quote:you're off 4 years...hes only 30.
maybe so but he is 34
quote:ill take that step down defensively for a bat any day. And Francoer didnt have any power this year either, so its all good. And I went to a zephers game 3-4 years ago when Church was on the AAA nationals team, and he hit 2 homers to deep center and a double off the wall. I wouldnt say he has little power.
he is a step down defensively and he has very little power
quote:I don't see how this doesnt help us.....
so I don't know how good of a trade it really is for either team
This post was edited on 7/10/09 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:20 pm to supatigah
quote:
maybe so but he is 34, he is a step down defensively and he has very little power so I don't know how good of a trade it really is for either team
he's 30
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:20 pm to Ryan3232
my bad he is 30
he only plays like he is 34
he only plays like he is 34
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:22 pm to supatigah
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Defense? According to UZR, there's little difference between them and Church might actually be better.
Is there a lot of real estate in RF at Citi?
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:22 pm to supatigah
quote:so do you reconsider what you said earlier...
my bad he is 30
Church's contract ends next year i think....so it doesnt matter if hes 30 or 34. He wont be with us next year unless he goes apemode for the rest of the year and we want him still.
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:23 pm to Ryan3232
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ill take that step down defensively for a bat any day. And Francoer didnt have any power this year either, so its all good. And I went to a zephers game 3-4 years ago when Church was on the AAA nationals team, and he hit 2 homers to deep center and a double off the wall. I wouldnt say he has little power.
the dude has 49 HRs and 106 2B in 5 1/2 seasons
I don't care what he did in one game in the minors, he has little power
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:24 pm to SwampDonks
man i liked francoeur
Posted on 7/10/09 at 7:26 pm to supatigah
quote:Like I said...its not like hes a step down to what Francoer was doing with us this year.
I don't care what he did in one game in the minors, he has little power
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