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re: Is Vladimir Klitchko the greatest Heavyweight of all time?
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:22 pm to samson'sseed
Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:22 pm to samson'sseed
Vitali>>>>>>Wlad
You can debate greatness all day but Vitali is the most dominant boxer of all time. That is a fact.
45 wins 41 KOs and 4 unanimous decisions
Never been knocked down
Vitali has never been behind on the cards at any point in any fight
You can debate greatness all day but Vitali is the most dominant boxer of all time. That is a fact.
45 wins 41 KOs and 4 unanimous decisions
Never been knocked down
Vitali has never been behind on the cards at any point in any fight
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Posted on 11/22/14 at 4:16 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Vitali>>>>>>Wlad You can debate greatness all day but Vitali is the most dominant boxer of all time. That is a fact. 45 wins 41 KOs and 4 unanimous decisions Never been knocked down Vitali has never been behind on the cards at any point in any fight
This
And his only losses occurred due to injuries.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 4:29 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:
With the exception of Fedor never fighting in UFC, the best fight the best or they forfeit their belts.
I can't really say how good Fedor is because its a well known fact that Pride was fixed and once he left and came to the US he got worked. I would like to think he was as good as we all think he was but it really is tough to say.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 5:26 pm to samson'sseed
The heavyweight division is devoid of talent. That soft-assed European would have gotten a beat down from Holmes, Frazier, Liston, Foreman, Ali, Lewis, Bowe, Norton, etc. in their primes. European fighters are heartless and always have been. Pressure them and they fold.
Losses to Sanders, Brewster and Puritty? God no.
Losses to Sanders, Brewster and Puritty? God no.
This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:48 pm to samson'sseed
You must be very young son. The question is laughable. So many greats in the 70s and 80s.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 8:14 pm to lsu480
quote:
I can't really say how good Fedor is because its a well known fact that Pride was fixed and once he left and came to the US he got worked. I would like to think he was as good as we all think he was but it really is tough to say.
The best fighters were in Pride. It was the superior organization in terms of talent and rules.
Fedor is the greatest MMA fighter ever.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:02 pm to Arksulli
There are a bunch of young punks in here. Tyson in his prime beats damn near anyone. Ali in his prime would knock out Klitchko.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:09 pm to offshoretrash
the sports has evolved, though, and guys like vitali and lennox just have an advanced style
it's boring as fricking shite and has killed HW boxing, but it's effective as shite also
tyson is like 5-10. he's going to need a miracle to get inside against the distance vitali would create. and if tyson gets inside, he'll get hugged to death. jab, jab, hug. jab, jab, hug.
it's boring as fricking shite and has killed HW boxing, but it's effective as shite also
tyson is like 5-10. he's going to need a miracle to get inside against the distance vitali would create. and if tyson gets inside, he'll get hugged to death. jab, jab, hug. jab, jab, hug.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:14 pm to offshoretrash
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Tyson in his prime beats damn near anyone. Ali in his prime would knock out Klitchko.
Vitali Klitschko beats both of them....and he brutalizes Tyson.
Wlad beats both as well but I'd give them a better shot. Wlad can't take a punch but the Emanuel Steward version of Wlad has learned to avoid punches and use his height, jab and straight right effectively.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:17 pm to Marciano1
yeah i mean saying ali would win is like saying that dick butkis would be able to show up and dominate in teh NFL today
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
He would.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:23 pm to Byron Bojangles III
he's not strong enough or fast enough to play LB in the NFL today, and heh probably would think DCs were speaking greek to him when discussing defense
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
Really? Are you serious or trolling? Ali would destroy him. Tyson would break his ribs.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:37 pm to offshoretrash
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Tyson would break his ribs
Vitali's reach advantage over Tyson is nearly a foot. Wlad's would be 8 or 9 inches. Tyson would never get through that jab, especially against Vitali.
Tyson NEVER had good stamina and dealing with men that large and having to fight off their clinches, eating their jabs, eating their straight right hands would simply punish him.
This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:38 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:You completely missed the point. Marciano had 6 title defenses over about a 2 year period. Klitschko and Louis both held the belt(s) for over a decade.
Rocky Marciano never lost a fight. And he kicked Joe Louis's arse.
ETA: And counting.
This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:43 pm to offshoretrash
quote:
Really? Are you serious or trolling? Ali would destroy him. Tyson would break his ribs.
Vitali is 6'7. Tyson is 5'10. It's weird that as I've gotten older we've traveled into some alternate universe where Tyson was a fantastic all-around boxer. He had, perhaps, the greatest one-punch power I've ever seen. But when he couldn't use it, he was hapless and against technically proficient boxers he was exposed.
And he wouldn't lay hands on either of the Klitchkos, just going on reach alone. And I loathe both of those Ukrainian frickers
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:45 pm to Marciano1
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Vitali's reach advantage over Tyson is nearly a foot. Wlad's would be 8 or 9 inches. Tyson would never get through that jab, especially against Vitali.
This, this, this, yall. Understand what the most important stat in boxing is
This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:46 pm to offshoretrash
quote:I can tell two things: 1. You're clueless about boxing, and 2. You probably don't even realize - and can't be convinced by anyone in this thread - that you're clueless about boxing.
Really? Are you serious or trolling? Ali would destroy him. Tyson would break his ribs.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:59 pm to BRgetthenet
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Tyson in his prime would destroy that communist pussy.
Don't think so, mike always had problem with tall boxers.
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