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re: Is John Calipari the most overrated head basketball coach in history?

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Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted by dj30
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:06 pm to
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but come the frick on with that developing talent thing



Look at players like Anthony Davis and KAT. These dudes werent anything special on the offensive end. Calipari had people comparing Anthony Davis to Theo Ratliff. The best thing for them was getting as far away from Calipari as possible.
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:06 pm to
It is a truly frightening level of lunacy
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:09 pm to
Im just saying. Look at Johnny Jones, he takes 4 star players like Jordan Mickey and develops them into NBA players. I like Caliparis 4 star players at Memphis and you dont know who most of these dudes are outside of Chris Douglas Robinson.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:10 pm to
DJ30
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:10 pm to
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Look at players like Anthony Davis and KAT.These dudes werent anything special on the offensive end


AD won about every award imaginable and a tournament.

Cal's been praised over and over again for forcing KAT to bring his game more inside to develop that part of his game. KAT basically hung around the perimeter coming out of high school. Okafor was considered the consensus #1 heading in to that season and now KAT is having one of the best rookie seasons in a very long time.

Devin Booker was basically a mid 20's-30's recruit and he already looks like a future all-star in PHX.

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Calipari had people comparing Anthony Davis to Theo Ratliff.


You are not a smart person
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:10 pm to
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Look at Johnny Jones,
Thread has done went full circle


Posted by dj30
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:13 pm to
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AD won about every award imaginable and a tournament.


He mightve been the greatest defensive player Ive seen in college. Offensively, he was terrible.


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You are not a smart person



Yea, my intelligence level is based on what other people said.
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:18 pm to
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He mightve been the greatest defensive player Ive seen in college. Offensively, he was terrible.



No he wasn't.

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Highly efficient offensive weapon (13.8 PPG, 65% FG) ... Predominantly an off-the ball target, cleaning up on alley-oops both off the pick and roll and dribble hands offs ... Few passes are out of reach, seemingly able to elevate as high as required. RUNS the court ... While not necessarily a power finisher, his explosiveness of the deck is effortless ... Capable of mid-air body adjustments on errant passes ... Displays the body control to hang and alter release to finish through a bump ... His jump shot form is aesthetically pleasing (71% FT), and its effectiveness certainly can be cultivated with work and experience ... Shows glimpses of pick and pop aptitude ... Bullet outlet passes are a major strength ... Can handle the ball in space with occasional facilitation of the offense, and does not appear limited to straight line drives ... Commits under a turnover per game as a freshman big, highlighting his guard skills ... Still only 18 years of age, Davis grew 7 inches (6’3-6’10) between his HS junior and senior seasons ... Dynamic versatility at both ends of the floor makes for boundless potential ...


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NBA Comparison: Kevin Garnett/Marcus Camby


People basically set the floor on him at Marcus Camby

LINK
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:18 pm to
DJ30 is a good poster and intelligent enough. He's just misguided here.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:21 pm to
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No he wasn't.


AD scoring consisted of alleys or put backs while at kentucky.

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People basically set the floor on him at Marcus Camby



Yea, Camby and KG were the ones mentioned most, but Theo Ratliff was mentioned also.
Posted by danilo
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:23 pm to
He sucks

NCAA Division I Tournament championship (2012)
6x NCAA Regional championships – Final Four (1996*, 2008*, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2015)
3× C-USA Tournament championships (2006–2009)
4× C-USA regular season championships (2004, 2006–2009)
NIT championship (2002)
5× A10 Tournament championships (1992–1996)
5× A10 regular season championships (1992–1996)
4× SEC regular season championships (2010, 2012, 2015, 2016)
4× SEC Tournament championships (2010, 2011, 2015, 2016)
Accomplishments 3× NCAA Championship Games (2008*, 2012, 2014)
8× Elite Eight (1995, 1996*, 2006–2008*, 2010–2012, 2014, 2015)
10× Sweet Sixteen (1992, 1995, 1996*, 2006–2012, 2014, 2015)

Awards
3× Naismith College Coach of the Year (1996, 2008, 2015)
Associated Press Coach of the Year (2015)
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Basketball Times Coach of the Year (1996)
Sports Illustrated Coach of the Year (2009)
2× Adolph Rupp Cup (2010, 2015)
3× A10 Coach of the Year (1993, 1994, 1996)
3× C-USA Coach of the Year (2006, 2008, 2009)
Jim Phelan National Coach of the Year (2009)
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This post was edited on 3/19/16 at 7:26 pm
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:24 pm to
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AD scoring consisted of alleys or put backs while at kentucky.



When a guy scores about 70% of his shots in the paint, you are going to try to get him as many looks there as possible.

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Camby and KG were the ones mentioned most


Yeah he was compared to a HOF who had a deadly midrange game. Wonder where that came from

Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:24 pm to
No one can deny that Cal's best coaching asset is his recruiting. His other abilities just don't hold a candle to it.

We can all name several other coaches that are better at Xs and Os, developing, in-game adjustments, etc.. but everyone knows he is tgoat recruiter the last decade or so
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:26 pm to
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Yeah he was compared to a HOF who had a deadly midrange game. Wonder where that came from




His highschool film. Go watch AD film from Kentucky. He was not a skilled offensive player there.

Hell, they had people saying saying Thomas Robinson was going to be a better NBA player.
Posted by RTR America
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:28 pm to
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No one can deny that Cal's best coaching asset is his recruiting. His other abilities just don't hold a candle to it.

We can all name several other coaches that are better at Xs and Os, developing, in-game adjustments, etc.. but everyone knows he is tgoat recruiter the last decade or so


Seriously blows my mind that some of you think he just rolls the ball out there. They had the best offense in the country with basically 2 guards carrying the entire load this season.

Developing? Seriously? Ulis was projected as a 4 year player and will probably be a first rounder after year 2. I've already brought up Booker from last year's team, but WCS was also a mid-40's recruit who he turned in to a top 10 pick.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:30 pm to
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Hell, they had people saying saying Thomas Robinson was going to be a better NBA player.



No Thomas Robinson said this. AD was about of pick of a lock to go #1 as we have had in recent years. People were talking about him possibly elevating the Pels to a 50 win team in his first season.

Where in god's name are you coming up with this stuff?
Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:33 pm to
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His highschool film. Go watch AD film from Kentucky. He was not a skilled offensive player there.



thats not true
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:34 pm to
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Hell, they had people saying saying Thomas Robinson was going to be a better NBA player.



Some people were saying Kevin durant would suck because of a bench press


We can play that game all day. You're really coming off extremely biased here
Posted by tWildcat
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Posted on 3/19/16 at 7:36 pm to
Josh Harrelson says hello.
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