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re: Is Golden State really this stupid?

Posted on 6/22/14 at 11:39 pm to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 6/22/14 at 11:39 pm to
Holy crap did someone really open their face and say Lee is on par with Love?

My oh my...
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36668 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 11:40 pm to
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What exactly has Love proven to this point that makes him a must get other than stats?


:oprahgayguygif:
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 11:59 pm to
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What exactly has Love proven to this point that makes him a must get other than stats?


I've never understood this argument. Dude gets you 26/13/4 on 46%, 37%, 82% shooting and he's "just a stat stuffer." Since when is the ability to stretch the floor and rebound at such a high level devalued? Is it just because they haven't made the playoffs in the stacked West? He's not Lebron or Durant, but 26/13/4 isn't some shite you accumulate without having the talent to back it up. There's only a handful of guys that can put up those stats in the entire league
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
1654 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:00 am to
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giving up him and Lee plus a pick is dumb


We have a very different definition of stupid. The equivalent of this is if the Clippers said no to CP3 deal because Eric Gordon was too valuable.
Posted by The_Hornet
Member since Jun 2014
546 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:02 am to
Klay Thompson is much much much better than Gordon.
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
1654 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:03 am to
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Klay Thompson is much much much better than Gordon.


Now yes, but at the time Eric Gordon was considered a very good young up and coming player.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:03 am to
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Dude gets you 26/13/4 on 46%, 37%, 82% shooting and he's "just a stat stuffer." Since when is the ability to stretch the floor and rebound at such a high level devalued? Is it just because they haven't made the playoffs in the stacked West? He's not Lebron or Durant, but 26/13/4 isn't some shite you accumulate without having the talent to back it up. There's only a handful of guys that can put up those stats in the entire league


This.

Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 12:15 am to
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The equivalent of this is if the Clippers said no to CP3 deal because Eric Gordon was too valuable.


I'm not getting the comparison

Klay Thompson >>>>> Eric Gordon

CP3 >>>> Kevin Love

Chris Paul is without a shadow of a doubt the best PG in the NBA. Can you say the same thing about Kevin Love and PF's?
This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 12:17 am
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
2343 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:27 am to
Love ON: 111.6 ORTG/106.0 DRTG

Love OFF: 101.1 ORTG/106.5 DRTG

So the TWolves go from top 3 offense in the league to bottom 3 when he goes to the bench.

Definitely Love's fault they can't make it to the playoffs.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34881 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 1:29 am to
It's so weird to me that the same people on this board who relentlessly defend individual statistics in the face of team accomplishments throw that reasoning completely out the fricking window when discussing Kevin Love.
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
1654 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:05 am to
Gordon averaged 22 points, four assists, and three rebounds the year before he got traded. This season Thompson averaged 18 points, 2 assists, and 3 rebounds. So I'm going to have to disagree on Thompson >>>>> Gordon.

And on Paul and Love, they are both superstars and our both among top players at their position. A Eric Gordon or Thompson should not be the player that stops you trading for them.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:34 am to
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Gordon averaged 22 points, four assists, and three rebounds the year before he got traded.


On a terrible Clippers team. The guy shot the ball 17 times a game.

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And on Paul and Love, they are both superstars and our both among top players at their position


One has never played a postseason game in his career and struggles defensively.

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Thompson should not be the player that stops you trading for them.


When did Klay Thompson become the only piece in this deal?

Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:37 am to
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What exactly has Love proven to this point that makes him a must get other than stats?



Wut
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
1654 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 2:49 am to
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On a terrible Clippers team. The guy shot the ball 17 times a game.


Shot a higher percentage than Thomspon and was more efficient.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110703 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 7:33 am to
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What exactly has Love proven to this point that makes him a must get other than stats?
He's proved he's a heck of a lot better than Thompson.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 7:40 am to
Would Love even re-sign with the Warriors?
Posted by GeauxAggie972
Poterbin Residence
Member since Aug 2009
29429 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 7:44 am to
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Would Love even re-sign with the Warriors?


I'd imagine he would. Hasn't been stated yet but there wouldn't be many other better options he could go to
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17098 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 7:49 am to
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Would Love even re-sign with the Warriors?


He wouldn't "re-sign". The trade is dead in the water if he doesn't agree to a long-term deal beforehand.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421901 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 8:13 am to
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He's proved he's a heck of a lot better than Thompson.

yeah NBA trades aren't like NFL trades, where you can have a "hershel walker" like deal and results (even then, in the NFL hitting all those home runs is rare as frick)

when was the last time the pieces given for a superstar ended up being close to an argument for the piece given up? gasol-gasol maybe, but that took years and was routinely used an example of the NBA rigging itself to aide the lakeshow
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110703 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 8:18 am to
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when was the last time the pieces given for a superstar ended up being close to an argument for the piece given up?
Yea, you always have to trade these guys at a discount, never getting "fair" value back, mostly because it's virtually impossible to do.

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gasol-gasol maybe, but that took years and was routinely used an example of the NBA rigging itself to aide the lakeshow
The Gasols trade, definitely worked out well for both, I think fans just overreacted big time to that one.
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