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re: If there was an NBA redraft, what would the top 10 picks look like?
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:00 pm to CocoLoco
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:00 pm to CocoLoco
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Me saying Davis is being hyped up as the next big thing is bias? You're just not paying attention. He's a top 5 player already, people finally got a glimpse of him vs GS in he playoffs. Simmons wrote an article about who is the most valuable player going forward, and he had Davis at #1. He is the largest blue chip player there is and holds the most value because of his age and how good he already is. I guess Simmons is biased as well?
He will be the best player in the NBA. It's just a matter of how soon. He's a very, very big deal.
By whom? Not being a dick, but no one knows or gives a shite about the pels outside of LA. The only thing the casual fan knows or remembers about Anthony Davis is he's a pro athlete that has one eyebrow.
That's it.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:09 pm to Mizzoufan26
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By whom? Not being a dick, but no one knows or gives a shite about the pels outside of LA. The only thing the casual fan knows or remembers about Anthony Davis is he's a pro athlete that has one eyebrow.
I just contradicted your 'argument' on the last page. He's not LeBron but you are badly underestimating him.
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:13 pm to Mizzoufan26
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By whom? Not being a dick, but no one knows or gives a shite about the pels outside of LA. The only thing the casual fan knows or remembers about Anthony Davis is he's a pro athlete that has one eyebrow.
That's it.
Yep. There are various factors that determine marketability; flashy/unique skills, good looks, big personality and visibility(playing in major media market or for "brand name" team a la Green Bay packers). Unfortunately, Davis doesn't achieve any of the categories. Not necessarily his fault, but he is more on track to be the next tim Duncan rather than the next lebron James.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:15 pm to 632627
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Yep. There are various factors that determine marketability; flashy/unique skills, good looks, big personality and visibility(playing in major media market or for "brand name" team a la Green Bay packers). Unfortunately, Davis doesn't achieve any of the categories. Not necessarily his fault, but he is more on track to be the next tim Duncan rather than the next lebron James.
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:16 pm to 632627
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Yep. There are various factors that determine marketability; flashy/unique skills, good looks, big personality and visibility(playing in major media market or for "brand name" team a la Green Bay packers). Unfortunately, Davis doesn't achieve any of the categories. Not necessarily his fault, but he is more on track to be the next tim Duncan rather than the next lebron James.
This is so wrong on so many levels.
Flashy/unique skills: He's a very exciting player to watch and absolutely has a unique skill set. Comparing his playing style to Duncan? I'm cringing for you.
Good looks: Did that stop LeBron?
Big Personality: Got me there
Visibility: I forgot what a world-renowned metropolis Cleveland is, thanks for reminding me.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:18 pm to 632627
Lebron is in a different league. The drop off from "off court marketability" from Lebron to the next guy is huge. Outside of Jordan lbj wil go down as the most marketable athelete ever
Davis won't be him and neither will any other NBA player or college or hs player on the horizon
That said, Davis' brand is growing rapidly. He's right there in that next tier of guys after Bron. If you don't believe that then you should get on Twitter after one of his huge games
Davis won't be him and neither will any other NBA player or college or hs player on the horizon
That said, Davis' brand is growing rapidly. He's right there in that next tier of guys after Bron. If you don't believe that then you should get on Twitter after one of his huge games
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:19 pm to Mizzoufan26
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By whom? Not being a dick, but no one knows or gives a shite about the pels outside of LA. The only thing the casual fan knows or remembers about Anthony Davis is he's a pro athlete that has one eyebrow.
He was 3rd in the fan voting for the All-Star game behind Curry & LeBron.
Evidently some people out there know who he is.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:21 pm to 632627
I'm not sure if anyone can be at Lebrons level when it comes to marketing, but Davis will continue to grow in that aspect because he is must see television. He's that good. And you guys will be seeing more and more of him, I assure you of that.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:24 pm to Mizzoufan26
So much stupid in this thread.. its comical.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:26 pm to REG861
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This is so wrong on so many levels.
Flashy/unique skills: He's a very exciting player to watch and absolutely has a unique skill set. Comparing his playing style to Duncan? I'm cringing for you.
Good looks: Did that stop LeBron?
Big Personality: Got me there
Visibility: I forgot what a world-renowned metropolis Cleveland is, thanks for reminding me.
You didn't understand a word I said. I'm comparing Davis potential marketability to that of Duncan's, Duncan is arguably the best player of his generation but will ultimately be overshadowed by lebron and Kobe because they were more famous.
Regarding lebron, he was already being touted as the goat coming out of junior high school. His game and athleticism had really never been seen before, he didn't need the other factors.
A big Part of the on court appeal of Davis is the lack of quality big men in the NBA.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:26 pm to GynoSandberg
Tim Duncan ain't too marketable. I don't recall Dirk being in many commercials. Hakeem wasn't "marketable". Shaq seems like the exception.
No one cares about that if you are winning. You would have to be the worst gm in the league of you are drafting based on marketability.
No one cares about that if you are winning. You would have to be the worst gm in the league of you are drafting based on marketability.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:28 pm to burdman
And that's with him hardly ever being in the spotlight. Only fans of the Pelicans and those that really follow the NBA have seen a lot of him. Those votes were based on the hype he receives from the media and places like twitter/reddit. People finally got a glimpse with him in the playoffs. They will have many nationally televised games this season, and his popularity will continue to grow. Many more first team NBA years, likely MVP awards and deep playoff runs if the Pels organization manages this right.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:32 pm to PortCityTiger24
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No one cares about that if you are winning. You would have to be the worst gm in the league of you are drafting based on marketability.
I never said I would, I have no problem taking ad #1 in a redraft. I was just arguing against the notion that Davis will be the face of the NBA.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:00 pm to Fun Bunch
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If I'm a GM, I need to keep my job so I'd probably go with Lebron, because even if he's got 2-3 years left of elite play, I'm getting to 2-3 Finals, automatic
Not if you are playing in the west......
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:21 pm to CocoLoco
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I'm not sure if anyone can be at Lebrons level when it comes to marketing, but Davis will continue to grow in that aspect because he is must see television. He's that good. And you guys will be seeing more and more of him, I assure you of that.
I think Durant is basically at Lebron's level of marketability right now. He just got a big shoe deal ($300 million) and has more endorsements than any other player (including James) but hasn't caught up in total dollars. Off the top of my head, Durant is currently in ads for Sprint, Subway, Sonic, 2k sports, etc. He's everywhere despite not playing most of the season. His popularity will continue to rise as he's viewed as one of the few universally liked guys in the league.
Really, NBA marketability starts with the shoe deal. Nike/Jumpman controls like 95% of the basketball shoe market, so their athletes have the best visibility.
Steph Curry is in that same realm as Durant in terms of likability, but his deal with Under Armour hurts him with visibility. He's got endorsements from Foot Locker, State Farm, etc. and had the second most popular jersey this season after Lebron. He's incredibly marketable, IMo
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:26 pm to dukke v
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Not if you are playing in the west......
The West wouldn't be the West because it would be a redraft of the entire league.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 2:41 pm to AlexLSU
I know AD wears nike. Him having his own shoe is inevitable.
AD has been on some commercials, more to come as well.
AD has been on some commercials, more to come as well.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 3:00 pm to CocoLoco
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I know AD wears nike. Him having his own shoe is inevitable.
AD has been on some commercials, more to come as well.
AD has a great foundation to be one of the league's most marketable stars in the next few years. He played at a premiere college and won a title, he was the #1 pick, he's already been an All-NBA selection, and he's a likable guy. I think the unibrow is obviously great for his image as it captures the non sports fan with the "oh Davis is the guy with the unibrow right?" moments, plus it shows that he doesn't take himself too serious.
The problem with AD is that he's in a small market with limited TV exposure, and he's not the most comfortable speaker in front of cameras. Guys like Lebron, Durant, Kobe, etc. that lead the league in endorsement dollars are all great in front of the camera.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 3:20 pm to AlexLSU
I agree with him not being the best speaker, but he can work on that. I think he's a smart guy. I think the commercials he's in are pretty funny. Not everyone can be Blake Griffin good in commercials. If used properly, stuff with him can be golden. The foot locker commercial with him running up and blocking that kids shot is fantastic.
KD is in a small market in OKC and he's big time. If the player is THAT good, I think they'll get the spotlight.
KD is in a small market in OKC and he's big time. If the player is THAT good, I think they'll get the spotlight.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 3:26 pm to CocoLoco
The reason he doesn't speak well is because his teeth are so jacked up that his tongue can't make the right sounds.
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