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re: If Army goes Unbeaten (besides vs tOSU) how far do they climb?

Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:23 pm to
Posted by oliveandblue
Member since Nov 2014
1673 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:23 pm to
Navy, Duke, AFA, and Temple have top 25 potential if things go right.

Army is a likable brand, so I'm going to put them between #15-20. They would be overranked by a committee who would rather have them many other G5 programs.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29076 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 9:57 pm to
For the record...in the not so distant past...Navy scared the shite out of tOSU...twice.


Army will not beat tOSU.

Army will not beat Navy.


Order will be restored after last year's gift just to keep the rivalry relevant.

Beat Army.
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
6355 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 10:39 pm to
Are they a bowl team? Yes

Will they beat 11 teams? No

They are too small for most D1 schools and although they will be better coached, they will just get manhandled by certain teams because of the battle they will face week to week.

9-3 is the best they can hope for.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80462 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:51 pm to
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They are too small for most D1 schools and although they will be better coached, they will just get manhandled by certain teams because of the battle they will face week to week.

9-3 is the best they can hope for.


Under Todd Monken, they have lost to the following teams that they should have beaten.

2014: Yale, Kent State. Winning those games would have made them 6-6 and bowl-eligible.

2015: Fordham, Rice, Tulane, Rutgers. Winning those games would have made them 6-6 and bowl-eligible.

2016: Buffalo, North Texas (1st time). Winning those games would have made them 9-3. I'll even say that they could have beaten a bad Duke team and a bad Notre Dame team, which would have made them 11-1.

They are good for at least 2 WTF losses every year.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80462 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:54 pm to
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For the record...in the not so distant past...Navy scared the shite out of tOSU...twice.


Navy has had a whole lot more stability as well. They've basically had the same coaching staff for close to 20 years (Niumatalolo was Paul Johnson's offensive coordinator at the Naval Academy)

The thing that hurts West Point football more than anything else is their insistence on being independent.

Air Force has thrived in the Mountain West and Navy has done rather well in the American.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/22/17 at 11:14 am to
1. They would have to give o state a game.
2. The strength of schedule with o state is still bottom 200. So a ranking will not happen until navy game. 20, 23. Some of that. Ahead of 8-3 p5 teams that could crush them.

11-1 will get them a ny6 defeat.

10-2 will visit memphis for a so what game with a chance to win their bowl. Presuming armed services bowl still memphis in late december.
Driving rain, maybe a snowfall you can measure. Same weather as army plays in during November. Lol.
This post was edited on 8/22/17 at 11:24 am
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139870 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 8:08 am to
As of today Army is:

Receiving 3 points in the Amway Coaches Poll
Receiving 2 points in the ESPN Writers Poll
Unranked in the CFP Poll
70th in the Sagarin Poll
52nd in the Massey Ratings
41st in the Coffeyratings


Their record is 7-2 with losses to tOSU and Tulane on the Road
This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 8:09 am
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139870 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:11 pm to
#GoArmy
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12620 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:15 pm to
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They will lose to Navy sooooooo


Nice
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14041 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:17 pm to
Solid bump
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139870 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:22 pm to
Stoopid Aggie had them losing 6 now they’ll be playing for a 10 Win season
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 5:27 pm
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32758 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:26 pm to
He had them losing six and you had them undefeated. They lost three so that’s right in the middle.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139870 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:27 pm to
Had them unbeaten? What?

Did you not read the OP?
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 5:28 pm
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32758 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:30 pm to
Yeah I’m jk obviously they aren’t going to beat OSU. Incredible season.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45214 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

Army will not beat Navy. Order will be restored after last year's gift just to keep the rivalry relevant.
. How did that work out for you?
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8620 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:33 pm to
Army is 9-3. Put them in the CFP. They've earned that 4 seed as much as any other team has.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

They will lose to Navy sooooooo
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