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If Army goes Unbeaten (besides vs tOSU) how far do they climb?

Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:06 pm
First off they will not beat tOSU, but lets say that is their only loss

And just for the heck of it they do beat tOSU how far do they go?


They could possibly go 6-1 vs potential bowl teams

Schedule


9/1/2017 Fordham West Point 6 PM
9/9/2017 Buffalo West Point 12 PM
9/16/2017 Ohio State Columbus, OH 4:30 PM
9/23/2017 Tulane New Orleans, LA TBA
9/30/2017 Texas-El Paso West Point 3:30 PM
10/7/2017 Rice Houston, TX 5:30 PM CT
10/14/2017 Eastern Michigan West Point 12 PM
10/21/2017 Temple West Point 12 PM Details
11/4/2017 Air Force USAF Academy, CO 1:30 PM MT
11/11/2017 Duke West Point 12 PM
11/18/2017 North Texas Denton, TX 5:30 PM CT
12/9/2017 Navy Philadelphia, PA 3 PM


This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 1:08 pm
Posted by CypressTrout10
Louisiana
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:10 pm to
They will lose to Navy sooooooo
Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

They will lose to Navy

Add Air Force to the L column too.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:18 pm to
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They will lose to Navy


Like last year right?

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:18 pm to
I could see them easily losing 4-5 of those games so it would be a stretch that they win them all. But lets say they do win them all and end up 11-1 they'd be in the top 10 and get one of the New Year's Bowls.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:21 pm to
I do not think they would climb into the top 10 unless they beat tOSU (which is not happening)
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:27 pm to
Depends on the number of losses the rest of the top 20 have. Just guessing like mid teens.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:28 pm to
I could see them at 11 or 12, but I don't think there's any way they would be left out of the New Year's 6 with an 11-2 season unless there is a very unusual situation. Something like Wisconsin being 11-2 with two losses to tOSU (which I know can't happen because they don't play in the regular season, but a very similar situation).
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

I do not think they would climb into the top 10 unless they beat tOSU (which is not happening)


Agreed. No way with that schedule they get into the Top 10--unless there are a lot of 2 loss teams, then MAYBE they climb into the Top 10.

Western Michigan went 13-1 against a similar schedule in 2016, and didn't crack the Top 10.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:33 pm to
This happened in NCAA and they were #2
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:33 pm to
Just think of the meltdown if they somehow go into Columbus and win? The Big XII or the B1G will be having a fit.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 2:05 pm to
Let's look at West Point's record over the tenure of their current coaching staff vs. the opponents on their schedule:

2016

Beat Temple
Beat Rice
Beat UTEP
Lost to Buffalo
Lost to Duke
Lost to Air Force
Split vs. North Texas
Beat Navy

2015

Lost to Fordham
Beat Eastern Michigan
Lost to Rice
Lost to Duke
Lost to Air Force
Lost to Tulane
Lost to Navy

2014

Beat Buffalo
Lost to Rice
Lost to Air Force
Beat Fordham
Lost to Navy

SO. Under the current coaching staff, USMA is:

1-1 vs. Fordham
1-1 vs. Buffalo
0-1 vs. Tulane
1-0 vs. UTEP
1-2 vs. Rice
1-0 vs. Eastern Michigan
1-0 vs. Temple
0-3 vs. Air Force
0-2 vs. Duke
1-1 vs. North Texas
1-2 vs. Navy

Vs. their 2017 Schedule, Army under Jeff Monken is a combined 8-13...and you think they're going to go 11-0?

This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 2:14 pm
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 2:07 pm to
Where did I say they were going to go 11-1? Last year it was BYU we did a thread like this with.

And they beat UNT in a rematch last year in the Heart of Dallas Bowl.

Why do you have Notre Dame on the record? They do not play them this year.


Stoopid Aggie
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 2:12 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80288 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Stoopid Aggie


Yep, this stoopid Aggie just destroyed your entire argument and you're going to nullify it by adding one win.

8-13 isn't that much different than 7-13.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 2:13 pm to
Jeff Monken is a douche.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80288 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Why do you have Notre Dame on the record? They do not play them this year.


I actually don't. I included the game from last year by mistake, but not in the overall record.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 2:16 pm to
21.

That's a trash schedule if they lose to tOSU.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80288 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 2:17 pm to
Since 1973 (when the draft ended and we became an all-volunteer force), the best West Point has ever done was 9 wins in 1996.

They're not going 11-1 regardless.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Just think of the meltdown if they somehow go into Columbus and win? The Big XII or the B1G will be having a fit.


I highly doubt it happens because our two deep front 7 is ridiculously big, fast, athletic, and deep.

But running the option you never know. Especially after a huge home game vs Oklahoma the week before.

But if PEEJ puts his lock off the week on it, you never know.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

9/1/2017 Fordham West Point 6 PM
9/9/2017 Buffalo West Point 12 PM
9/16/2017 Ohio State Columbus, OH 4:30 PM
9/23/2017 Tulane New Orleans, LA TBA
9/30/2017 Texas-El Paso West Point 3:30 PM
10/7/2017 Rice Houston, TX 5:30 PM CT
10/14/2017 Eastern Michigan West Point 12 PM
10/21/2017 Temple West Point 12 PM Details
11/4/2017 Air Force USAF Academy, CO 1:30 PM MT
11/11/2017 Duke West Point 12 PM
11/18/2017 North Texas Denton, TX 5:30 PM CT
12/9/2017 Navy Philadelphia, PA 3 PM




Bolded the losses you missed in your prediction

Geaux Navy
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 2:24 pm
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