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re: How is this CFP any better than the BCS??

Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:42 pm to
To answer your question directly, this committee probably knows their shite way better than the Coaches' and Harris polls did, and they are also individually subject to much more scrutiny.

That said, the BCS placed significant weight on unbiased, comprehensive math. Be-all, end-all? No, but nothing anyone says will convince me that democracy is a better way to decide these things than is a mathematical formula or series thereof.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16926 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:42 pm to
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I think the BCS system and then take the top 4 teams for a playoff would have been ideal.


It's infuriating that they didn't just do this.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:42 pm to
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Make the power 5 conferences ALL have championship games, take the winners of those, 3 at large or Wild Card teams and be done. Better than the crap we have right now.
No, that's a god-awful, unreasonable, unrealistic idea.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:44 pm to
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This. The BCS was ridiculously bad.

Better record, tougher schedule, higher margin of victory. Geaux Tigers.
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
13357 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:45 pm to
It still looks like the earlier you lose,the better off you are. It's like they forget about the old losses
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4625 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:47 pm to
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Posted by Cs on 11/10/15 at 6:25 pm to CalTiger53 At least the BCS formula contained an iota of objectivity. The committee rankings are a complete joke.


The criteria that went into the diffenent computer pills was subjective....but it was defined before the season and applied equally.


The committee is a freaking joke.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10895 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:57 pm to
Scheduling of the current Top 4:
#1 Clemson: Beat #4 Notre Dame, Beat #16 Florida State, May Face #23 North Carolina
#2 Alabama: Beat #9 LSU, Beat #25 Wisconsin, Will Play #17 Miss. St., May Face #11 Florida
#3 Ohio State: Will Play #13 Michigan State, Will Play #14 Michigan, May Play #5 Iowa
#4 Notre Dame: Loss to #1 Clemson, Beat #20 Navy, Beat #22 Temple, Will Play #7 Stanford
Total Games Played Against the Top 25: 11 (14 possible)
Total Games Played vs Non-Power 5 Conferences: 11 (Clemson - 2, Alabama - 3, Ohio State - 3, Notre Dame - 3)

I'm all for giving cupcake schools their funding, but when the number of games vs Top 25 schools is so close to the number of cupcakes, you have to wonder.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25239 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:03 pm to
It's better in that four teams have a legitimate shot at winning.

Unless you're talking the way the teams are decided. That would be a separate issue which I could agree with, though I'm not opposed to what we have now.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:10 pm to
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Scheduling of the current Top 4:
#1 Clemson: Beat #4 Notre Dame, Beat #16 Florida State, May Face #23 North Carolina
#2 Alabama: Beat #9 LSU, Beat #25 Wisconsin, Will Play #17 Miss. St., May Face #11 Florida
#3 Ohio State: Will Play #13 Michigan State, Will Play #14 Michigan, May Play #5 Iowa
#4 Notre Dame: Loss to #1 Clemson, Beat #20 Navy, Beat #22 Temple, Will Play #7 Stanford
Total Games Played Against the Top 25: 11 (14 possible)
Total Games Played vs Non-Power 5 Conferences: 11 (Clemson - 2, Alabama - 3, Ohio State - 3, Notre Dame - 3)
Each team has played many more games than this. They all count.
Posted by Chillini
Member since Sep 2012
3153 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:20 pm to
LSU fans bitching because they shite the bed against Bama...again. 2 SEC teams aren't getting in. If it ends up Bama vs Florida in Atlanta the winner will get in and loser will be bumped.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:22 pm to
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LSU fans bitching because they shite the bed against Bama...again. 2 SEC teams aren't getting in. If it ends up Bama vs Florida in Atlanta the winner will get in and loser will be bumped.

Hail State. Go Noles.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36740 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:32 pm to
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LSU fans bitching because they shite the bed against Bama...again. 2 SEC teams aren't getting in. If it ends up Bama vs Florida in Atlanta the winner will get in and loser will be bumped.


Definitely not bitching. Truly wondering after the commentators comment about not putting 2 teams from the same conference to basically "share the wealth" being stupid ... even if the 2 teams are 2 of the 4 most deserving.

Also, isn't there the possibility of ie a player who was out due to injury so they lost but MAY have won and comes back later in the season and therefore get the benefit of the doubt?? Their lost can be "excused"? How does that fly?

I just think that there's the huge possibility of bias even though they're supposed to be professionals. It's human nature.

Again so NOT griping about LSUs ranking.
Posted by Chillini
Member since Sep 2012
3153 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:41 pm to
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Also, isn't there the possibility of ie a player who was out due to injury so they lost but MAY have won and comes back later in the season and therefore get the benefit of the doubt?? Their lost can be "excused"? How does that fly?

This should not matter one bit. Football is a team sport. Injuries happen and it doesn't change what a team accomplished before or can accomplish going forward. Look at Ohio State last year or the QB at Baylor stepping in for a great performance last week.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36740 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:47 pm to
Oh I know but I seem to recall there being "talk" about that being able to be used by the committee when making the rankings. I could be wrong.
Posted by NashBamaFan
Nashville
Member since Mar 2011
2947 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:51 pm to
The douche that made that comment isn't on the committee.
The guy who IS on the committee clearly said that ND was where they are in the rankings partly due to what they've done all while having injuries to important position players.

This IS you upset that LSU shite the bed, once again. Be honest with yourself.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 8:53 pm
Posted by Chillini
Member since Sep 2012
3153 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:53 pm to
You definitely aren't wrong. I've heard that talk before as well. All it should come down to is A) Who you beat B) How you beat them and C) Who you lost to. The rest is just bullshite talking points for "analysts"
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:57 pm to
I just found out tonight that 2 committee members are assigned to each conference.
quote:

@BryanDFischer: Worth noting that Condoleezza Rice and Bobby Johnson are the two committee members assigned to the Big 12.

quote:

@BryanDFischer: Tom Osborne and Condoleezza Rice are assigned to the American. Four AAC teams in the top 25.
This makes no goddamn sense to me.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36740 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:57 pm to
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NashBamaFan


I don't do this often as I like to think of myself as a lady but . For the record, I'm an LSU fan who would take Saban back. Do I ever pull for Bama? Hell no. But do I admit when my team gets beat? Absolutely. And did we get beat on Saturday. Presumptuous Gump.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:58 pm to
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I'm an LSU fan who would take Saban back.


oh for crying out loud, go back to the rant
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52152 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:59 pm to
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Just should have kept the BCS and the top 4 made the playoffs
I agree. This committee BS is a joke
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