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Posted on 11/2/14 at 9:07 am to White Tiger
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Right. They squeak by Navy and they are good. I see your point.
Would a loss to Ole Miss or a squeaker against a shitty Arkansas team make them better?
Posted on 11/2/14 at 9:08 am to White Tiger
Question - why is Michigan State ranked #8?
Wins:
Jacksonville State
Eastern Michigan
Wyoming
Purdue
Indiana
Nebraska
Michigan
20 point loss to Oregon
Wins:
Jacksonville State
Eastern Michigan
Wyoming
Purdue
Indiana
Nebraska
Michigan
20 point loss to Oregon
Posted on 11/2/14 at 9:24 am to bayoujd
Thats the only team I take issue with being above ND.. Everyone else is fairly above
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:00 am to fightin tigers
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I think they have to be removed to make the 8 team playoff work. Plus, if the conference game is worth it they will meet up in the playoff.
I would prefer an uneven number of teams like 6 or 10. That way there's a reward for the best teams (a bye week).
I wouldn't go any higher than 12. If you're 13th, you might be able to argue that you're one of the op 12 but you have no credible argument that you're the best.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:03 am to Bestbank Tiger
Then do what the FCS does take 24
Top 8 get a bye it gives wild cards and all FBS teams a chance. Plus it gives credence to the top 25 poll the committee releases.
Top 8 get a bye it gives wild cards and all FBS teams a chance. Plus it gives credence to the top 25 poll the committee releases.
This post was edited on 11/2/14 at 10:05 am
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:38 am to sms151t
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would prefer an uneven number of teams like 6 or 10. That way there's a reward for the best teams (a bye week)
Low numbers like that only give Top 2 or 4 teams with byes. Too much argument can be made. Can see the plus of a reward game.
quote:
Then do what the FCS does take 24
Long post season that would probably force home games to be given up. Hard sell there for the majority of teams that will never make the playoff.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:40 am to fightin tigers
If they go to 24 CCG are over and I think you'd get new conferences forming to attempt to minimize losses.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:47 am to sms151t
12 might work the best.
- All conference champions get in if they're ranked. (Which will rarely if ever happen with the MAC and Sunbelt champions, and at least one other mid major will fall short each year.) At larges fill out the field.
- Top four teams get a bye and a second round home game.
- Next four teams get a first round home game.
- All conference champions get in if they're ranked. (Which will rarely if ever happen with the MAC and Sunbelt champions, and at least one other mid major will fall short each year.) At larges fill out the field.
- Top four teams get a bye and a second round home game.
- Next four teams get a first round home game.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:50 am to rocket31
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Thats the only team I take issue with being above ND.. Everyone else is fairly above
They have a win against a top 15 team. ND has no ranked wins.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:51 am to Bestbank Tiger
I think they all should get in. They deserve a chance.
But I know that's not popular.
Again I think we are finding a NC not the best team. To me that is the issue, as that's never been clearly defined.
But I know that's not popular.
Again I think we are finding a NC not the best team. To me that is the issue, as that's never been clearly defined.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 11:15 am to KillerNut9
Stanford and Nebraska are a wash. Flip schedules and the teams have different records.
In fact according to Dons best Vegas ratings. Stanford would be favored to win the game
In fact according to Dons best Vegas ratings. Stanford would be favored to win the game
Posted on 11/2/14 at 11:27 am to rocket31
They aren't a wash when one is ranked in the top 15 and the other keeps losing while unranked. ND has no quality wins yet, Sparty has 1. That's the way the committee sees it regardless of what a speculative Vegas line says.
Posted on 11/2/14 at 11:32 am to KillerNut9
Indeed. Just pointing out flaws in the committee logic.
Teams are supposed to rewarded for stiff competition, but Nebraska is getting rewarded for playing pancakes.
As such moving fwd it makes zero sense to schedule hard games. Just ask Mich State, I'm sure in hindsight they'd rather have played Toledo instead of Oregon
Teams are supposed to rewarded for stiff competition, but Nebraska is getting rewarded for playing pancakes.
As such moving fwd it makes zero sense to schedule hard games. Just ask Mich State, I'm sure in hindsight they'd rather have played Toledo instead of Oregon
Posted on 11/3/14 at 4:29 pm to TheSexecutioner
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So you just want Vegas to rank the teams then? Your playoff would be Alabama, Florida State, Baylor, and Michigan St. Sorry Miss St. Great season, but nobody really cares about winning games.
This is probably a lame bump, but I didn't see the 2 posts to mine.
I actually would like to see some type of Vegas line factor into the rankings. Please don't read that first sentence and go nuts, I know how crazy it seems and the problems it could cause. But under the right circumstances and monitoring and transparency, I think Vegas lines could be very beneficial and better than most methods of ranking teams.
If I had to put my life on the line in a seasons long contest(Vegas vs talking heads or committee members) of who could rank teams or pick winners better, I'd side with Vegas. Wouldn't there be far less room for bias?
And there are plenty avenues present to separate good teams vs deserving teams. I assume Alabama 2010 would still be favored against most teams in the country. They didn't deserve shite though because of their 3 losses and that could easily be accounted for.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 4:33 pm to White Tiger
I think we have good shot to beat Notre Dame in a couple of weeks
Posted on 11/3/14 at 4:36 pm to Lester Earl
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if you want to play that game. They have 1 loss. They could actually be ranked higher and prob will once the SEC takes care of itself
Not after they lose to the favored Sun Devils this weekend!
Posted on 11/3/14 at 4:37 pm to navy
quote:
If nD was called "northwest Indiana st" they would not even be ranked.
If I was 7'2 I might have made the NBA.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 4:52 pm to rocket31
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Teams are supposed to rewarded for stiff competition, but Nebraska is getting rewarded for playing pancakes.
Navy is a cupcake.... And IF ND beats Zona St. I will give this a better thought... However if MSU beats OSU, then MSU>>>>>>>..ND. No matter what ND does the rest of the year.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:07 pm to dukke v
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Navy is a cupcake.... And IF ND beats Zona St. I will give this a better thought... However if MSU beats OSU, then MSU>>>>>>>..ND. No matter what ND does the rest of the year.
Yeah, I'll look ND differently if they can look good against Arizona St. And I kick myself for ignoring the BIG. I don't have any feel for how good OSU or Mich St are. Is it wrong for me to sorta favor ND over teams with better resumes because I think Golson could potentially be an X factor in games, even though they might not deserve it?
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