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Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:48 pm to
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:48 pm to
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We can argue whether they deserved to be there or not.(would prefer not to beat this dead horse though) It doesn't matter now. They were clearly the better team that night, and with that they earned the crystal football.


You can't be national champions if you aren't even the champion of your own conference.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:50 pm to
You can't be Super Bowl champions if your team wears blue.

See, I can say retarded things too.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:52 pm to
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We got totally robbed in 1966. Look it up. We were the nation's only undefeated, untied team. We won the Sugar Bowl. We even started the Season #1.
But we would've been the only team in the modern era to win 3 in a row, and the polls didn't want to give it to us.
Completely and totally robbed. No question about it.

I don't think anyone here would disagree with you.
It's still no excuse for 1941 though (not saying that you said that or anything).
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:52 pm to
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You can't be national champions if you aren't even the champion of your own conference.

Where does it say this?
Let me ask this too, were you one of the many who were pushing for a rematch in 06?
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30884 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:54 pm to
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We claim 14, and only 11 are consensus.


Which 11 are "consensus"?
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9599 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:54 pm to
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And most people seem to agree with me, tard. Including LSU fans, Florida fans, etc

I may have to change my opinion soon. I can only agree with and defend Bama for so long.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:57 pm to
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Which 11 are "consensus"?
'25
'26
'61
'64
'65
'73
'78
'79
'92
'09
'11
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 7:59 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/18/12 at 8:01 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

You can't be national champions if you aren't even the champion of your own conference.



quote:

Associated Press
Billingsley Report
Bowl Championship Series
College Football Researchers Association
CollegeRivals.org Top 25 Fan Poll
Dunkel System
Football Writers Association of America
Massy Ratings
National Football Foundation and Hall of Fame
Peter Wolfe
Sagarin Ratings
USA Today/ESPN


All of these people disagree with you. Major polls are in bold.
This post was edited on 8/18/12 at 8:01 pm
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9599 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 8:01 pm to
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You can't be national champions if you aren't even the champion of your own conference.

While I have said this ever since Nebraska in 01, and again in 03, 06, and 07. Bama still got in, whether you or anyone else agrees with it. And they won it on the field. LSU was the SEC champion, and Bama unfortunately was the National Champ
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 8:01 pm to
True. Those Championships in 25, 26, and 31 are retroactive, and I'm sure someone will bring this up.

But if you look at the season, and the bowl results, you can see why Bama was eventually voted NC.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 8:01 pm to
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All of these people disagree with you.


Don't forget the FWAA and NFF too. I know how you love the FWAA.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30884 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 8:02 pm to
I don't think you know what consensus means. I just went through the 14 Alabama claims and only 7 times did Alabama even have the most publications voting them #1.

61, 64, 65, 73, and 78 are all split.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 8:03 pm to
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RandySavage

I just posted this on page 3.

Edit: Removed, posted again below.
This post was edited on 8/18/12 at 8:08 pm
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 8:03 pm to


You're the one who doesn't know what consensus means.

This is from the NCAA's own record book:



ETA: USMCGators beat me to it
This post was edited on 8/18/12 at 8:04 pm
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82055 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 8:04 pm to
Genro, you hijacked this thread very well
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 8:07 pm to
I prefer this one, since we all know that cfb didn't started until 1990.

Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30884 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 8:08 pm to
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You're the one who doesn't know what consensus means.


From Mr. Webster "a : general agreement : unanimity".

If you aren't even champion by a majority how can you possibly claim unanimity? I guess by the same logic that can see you finish 4th in your conference and then retroactively award yourself a national title 40 years later in hopes that everyone forgot.
This post was edited on 8/18/12 at 8:10 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 8/18/12 at 8:10 pm to
I will say this, I have a lot more respect for the FWAA then I do for the NFF.
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