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re: Grantland Lebron article-pick your quotes and antagonize the opposition
Posted on 5/13/15 at 7:48 pm to SabiDojo
Posted on 5/13/15 at 7:48 pm to SabiDojo
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This thread is about how Ron would take Larry Bird over LeBron James.
And that decline is cute, until you realize where the decent started from. Bet the OP wasn't sucking him off for shooting damn near 60% for 2 consecutive seasons. fricking idiot.
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 7:48 pm to RonBurgundy
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LeBron James
Posted on 5/13/15 at 7:50 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:frick it, I'm keeping it.
Quoted before the edit.
Although, I wish I wouldn't have called someone an idiot in my next post
Posted on 5/13/15 at 7:54 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:This is just simply not true anymore. His mid-range jump shot has improved immensely. This shows that his game has evolved and improved so no need to have so much wonderment.
I'm wondering as well. He doesn't have the mid range shooting or handle that MJ and Kobe had. .
Posted on 5/13/15 at 7:55 pm to TheGasMan
Posted on 5/13/15 at 7:57 pm to buckeye_vol
All-time great player. Probably will end up top 3-5 ever. Best days are behind him, he may win another title but won't catch Kobe or Jordan. Best player in the NBA right now and maybe for the next 2-3 years.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:17 pm to WeBeezYoSuperBowl
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This post was edited on 5/13/15 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 5/13/15 at 8:35 pm to ReauxlTide222
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nd that decline is cute, until you realize where the decent started from. Bet the OP wasn't sucking him off for shooting damn near 60% for 2 consecutive seasons. fricking idiot.
Im not into sucking off anyone, but if you've seen my posts the last few years I've applauded LeBron for moving closer to the basket...but you're new to NBA threads.
Posted on 5/13/15 at 9:43 pm to RonBurgundy
No, I'm not. You applauded him, takes guts.
If you're gonna hate as hard as you do, you should also be highly impressed when he does unbelievable things. You don't though, you just hate. And for that, nobody respects a single thing you say about basketball.
If you're gonna hate as hard as you do, you should also be highly impressed when he does unbelievable things. You don't though, you just hate. And for that, nobody respects a single thing you say about basketball.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:03 am to ReauxlTide222
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You don't though, you just hate. And for that, nobody respects a single thing you say about basketball.
k...
quote:-TigahRag
I have to say, Ron .. I genuinely enjoy your NBA posts .. They're very good and insightful .. I appreciate your perspective ..
quote:-the great duukev
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RonBurgundy
Spot on.......
quote:-RedRifle
Eta: what I like about your post is that you highlight a point most causal fans don't get. You don't just roll out the ball and ask them to "go shoot hoops". There's a lot to having the right personnel pieces, different offensive/defensive sets etc.
quote:-corndeaux
First, there's nothing wrong with what Bosh did in Miami. Efficient 18/8 and stellar defense is outstanding. No Bosh buying in with his talents and pace/space doesn't work.
And Ron nailed it
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LeBron is the all around talent. If other guys can't fill certain roles, as an NBA All-Timer (which he definitely is) it's on him to fill those roles.
He picked Irving. He wanted Love. They can score, but have problems elsewhere. LeBron can fill those gaps, but he has to give up the ball some to do so. Like Bosh did. If LeBron puts up 19/9/9 with good defense and Irving/Love explode, how is LeBron less of a player?
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RonBurgundy
Great post. You somehow bridged the gap between both sides of this.
Even though I do think that the game was better in the 80s/90s, I definitely think that there is very good basketball being played today and yes, it is MUCH better than the early 2000s in the post-Jordan/Bulls era. Those Laker teams were good, but the league overall was pretty bad.
But, you made good sense there.
-AlaTiger
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 3:43 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 5:14 am to RonBurgundy
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Ron Burgundy
Reading your "rave reviews" felt like I was watching a preview for some crappy movie where they pull snippets from unknown critic--or worse yet random twitter users--to make it seem like they are getting rave reviews when Rottentomatoes has it < 5%. So maybe you're like the Gigli of NBA posting.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 5:16 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 5:35 am to RonBurgundy
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RedRifle
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the great duukev
Posted on 5/14/15 at 5:59 am to RonBurgundy
I don't know what's worse, that you saved those posts or that you think that PJ and redrifle complimenting your posts is a good thing.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:06 am to ReauxlTide222
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He doesn't have the mid range shooting or handle that MJ and Kobe had.
can we get some stats on this?
pretty sure he's at least equal to kobe and in miami was superior to kobe's best years in midrange
i don't know if they have the advanced stats on MJ
Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:15 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Kobe had a career shooting percentage of 45% from 3-10 ft; 44% from 10-16 ft; and 40.6% from 16-arc.
can we get some stats on this?
pretty sure he's at least equal to kobe and in miami was superior to kobe's best years in midrange
i don't know if they have the advanced stats on MJ
With Miami, LeBron had a shooting of 49.3% from 3-10 ft; 43.9% from 10-16 ft; and 41.4% from 16-arc.
Basketball Reference only has shooting distances for MJ's Washington seasons so that wouldn't be a good measure of his shooting.
LeBron has improved a great deal from his earlier days.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 8:17 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:21 am to buckeye_vol
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LeBron has improved a great deal from his earlier days.
oh yeah the memes developed when he was in his first 4 years or so and still persist as fact. i always used to post about it
lebron was criticized for his D, and then became one of the best defenders in the NBA
lebron was criticized for his midrange, and then became one of the best midrange shooters (he was like top 4 or 5 a couple of years in miami)
lebron was criticized for not posting up, and in one offseason came back with a dominating post game
he's like a cyborg or a sports movie montage every offseason, and people not only ignore his work, they proliferate the ideas he's lazy and doesn't work on his game. the whole "he's just so athletic he isn't a real player like "
it really is just so pathetic (outside of MJ comparisons). people are trying to compare [i]kobe to lebron?
Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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he's like a cyborg or a sports movie montage every offseason, and people not only ignore his work, they proliferate the ideas he's lazy and doesn't work on his game. the whole "he's just so athletic he isn't a real player like
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:07 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Imagine if somebody said "Einstein wasn't a real scientist because he was so smart" or "Mozart wasn't a real musician/composer because he has too much musical ability."
he's like a cyborg or a sports movie montage every offseason, and people not only ignore his work, they proliferate the ideas he's lazy and doesn't work on his game. the whole "he's just so athletic he isn't a real player like "
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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he's like a cyborg or a sports movie montage every offseason, and people not only ignore his work, they proliferate the ideas he's lazy and doesn't work on his game. the whole "he's just so athletic he isn't a real player like "
I don't think that's what Goldsberry was saying nor it was what I said. I've just wondered what his game is going to look like post turbo mode.
I've acknowledge on numerous occasions he's a top 10 player all time. What's funny is that if I'm not calling him the GOAT, that I'm some sort of "hater"...which is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 10:38 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:12 am to RonBurgundy
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I don't think that's what Goldsberry was saying
i wasn't addressing the OP or Goldsberry
Lebron's FG% drop was a big deal. i traded him pretty early this year in FBB b/c he looked like he was not going to reach his old peaks and was declining. that FG% drop, even though it's still a good FG%, hurt his value a great deal.
my comments are towards this mythology of his faults (by posters, not goldsberry) that we saw in this very thread.
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I've just wondered what his game is going to look like post turbo mode.
more posting and passing, i'd imagine
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