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Former Players, Staff Reveal Troubling Allegations of Toxic Culture Under P.J. Fleck
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:02 pm
Another program with a lot of allegations from former players.
Fleck Toxic Culture at Minnesota
Fleck Toxic Culture at Minnesota
This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 1:04 pm
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:04 pm to RedHawk
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:05 pm to RedHawk
Oh boy
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:05 pm to RedHawk
That is one of the worst articles I have ever read
The biggest knock against Fleck is that if certain guys who were high character failed a drug test, he looked the other way
THE HORRIR
How in the hell is that “toxic culture”?
The biggest knock against Fleck is that if certain guys who were high character failed a drug test, he looked the other way
THE HORRIR
How in the hell is that “toxic culture”?
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:05 pm to RedHawk
Do you get credits at the Fleck Bank if you pay in Schrute Bucks?
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:09 pm to RedHawk
I mean this happens every 5-10 years where this comes out about a number of programs.
It's happening everywhere and some kids who get upset bring things up.
This is pretty much what happened with Leach (RIP) at Tech. Family was pissed and went after him
It's happening everywhere and some kids who get upset bring things up.
This is pretty much what happened with Leach (RIP) at Tech. Family was pissed and went after him
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:10 pm to RedHawk
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Former Players,
Such soft bullshite
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Dan Nichol, Minnesota’s head football strength and conditioning coach who followed Fleck over from Western Michigan and interned at Iowa under disgraced strength coach Chris Doyle, gathered the team together after Fleck was hired, one of the former players said. The instruction was simple: Clap whenever Fleck entered the locker room.
“We had to [practice giving Fleck ovations] multiple times — the first time, because some other people in the back were not moving as quick as he wanted,” a third player told FOS.
Two other former players said that Fleck would reenter a room if he didn’t like the ovation he received.
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said the second player. “He wanted you to be family, and he wanted you to do whatever he wanted you to do.”
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After that first team meeting in 2017, players received a three-ring binder they were required to memorize and on which they were tested. FOS obtained several pages of the binder used by Fleck during his time at Minnesota.
The third player said that one acronym stood out: F.A.M.I.L.Y., short for “Forget About Me, I Love You.”
“He was making us say, forget about yourself as an individual,” the player said. “I was baffled because it’s not anything logical. If you forget about yourself, then who are you?”
Added a fourth player: “It’s based around Fleck’s ego. You have to talk a certain way. You have to be a certain way. … Within that building of the University of Minnesota, it’s very much like brainwashing.”
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There was only one acceptable answer when Fleck and other staff members asked, “How are you doing?”
“I’m elite.”
“It was sickening because I wasn’t OK,” the first player said, “I wasn’t in a good mental spot. I was struggling. I was fighting every day just to get by or find hope. It’s not natural to say when someone asks how you’re doing to say, ‘I am elite.’ When I said, ‘I’m good,’ [Fleck] would respond, ‘Oh, you’re not elite?’ He would either get all frustrated and walk off, or I’d be told, ‘You’re supposed to say elite.’ Inside, I was not feeling anywhere near that.”
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Former Players, Staff Reveal Troubling Allegations
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:11 pm to SPEEDY
Yeh I hope every player in that article and the journalist that wrote it have a horrible life with far ugly nagging wives that cheat on them
That is such whiny baby pussy shite
That is such whiny baby pussy shite
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:11 pm to RedHawk
That article is pure trash.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:12 pm to RedHawk
I skimmed the article and most of it, other than giving players passes on drug tests, is pretty tame.
The gist of the whole article is he has some cringy slogans, and encouraged people to stay on top of their studying and encouraged community service and gave out tokens or coins (similar to stickers for good behavior/test scores in elementary school).
Is it kinda weird? Yeah he's a weird guy. But to be mentioned in the same breath as what went on at Northwestern is such a reach you'd have to be stretch armstrong
The gist of the whole article is he has some cringy slogans, and encouraged people to stay on top of their studying and encouraged community service and gave out tokens or coins (similar to stickers for good behavior/test scores in elementary school).
Is it kinda weird? Yeah he's a weird guy. But to be mentioned in the same breath as what went on at Northwestern is such a reach you'd have to be stretch armstrong
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:12 pm to RedHawk
What a total nothing burger.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:13 pm to lsupride87
I don't think it's out of bounds to say his schtick is weird.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:13 pm to RedHawk
Reads like a former player with mental illness and a former regent with an ax to grind gave a bunch of chicken shite to Front Office Sports who failed to make chicken salad of it. Miserably.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:13 pm to SPEEDY
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The third player said that one acronym stood out: F.A.M.I.L.Y., short for “Forget About Me, I Love You.”
“He was making us say, forget about yourself as an individual,” the player said. “I was baffled because it’s not anything logical. If you forget about yourself, then who are you?”
These motherfrickers need to watch Goon.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:13 pm to RedHawk
PJ Fleck being a very weird narcissist doesn't seem like breaking news. The PJ Fleck personality cult is kind of his whole schtick?
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:14 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:Sure
don't think it's out of bounds to say his schtick is weird.
Now why does that warrant an entire article and calling it “toxic culture”?
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:14 pm to RedHawk
read the whole thing....99.9999% of that is complete horse shite. They required community service, you were rewarded for good grades & forced to make good grades and made you drink protein shakes in front of them? ummm...
A) community service is required at lots of places.
B) Minn should be proud they have a coach that requires and forces the kids to make the grades
C) forced to drink protein shake because you are underweight??? maybe, just maybe they care about you getting to the weight you need to be at. The whole comment about being obsessed with weight...to quote dan hawkins..."This is D1 football brother!!" I mean wtf do they expect??
D) forced to do extra workouts for punishment for breaking team rules...wtf? of course. how the hell does one get PTSD over that?
E) coaches encouraging kids to play if they are not seriously injured?? wtf do you think you are playing brother? "ITS D1 football!!"
i mean seriously the article is complete dog shite
A) community service is required at lots of places.
B) Minn should be proud they have a coach that requires and forces the kids to make the grades
C) forced to drink protein shake because you are underweight??? maybe, just maybe they care about you getting to the weight you need to be at. The whole comment about being obsessed with weight...to quote dan hawkins..."This is D1 football brother!!" I mean wtf do they expect??
D) forced to do extra workouts for punishment for breaking team rules...wtf? of course. how the hell does one get PTSD over that?
E) coaches encouraging kids to play if they are not seriously injured?? wtf do you think you are playing brother? "ITS D1 football!!"
i mean seriously the article is complete dog shite
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:14 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I don't think it's out of bounds to say his schtick is weird.
Of course not. But toxic culture and troubling allegations? Cmon bruh
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:15 pm to WaterLink
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I skimmed the article and most of it, other than giving players passes on drug tests, is pretty tame.
About the only thing in that article that would raise an eyebrow. Everything else was really tame.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:15 pm to teke184
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Do you get credits at the Fleck Bank if you pay in Schrute Bucks?
The Fleck Bank only takes Stanley Nickles.
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