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re: First four rule for the Ncaa Tournament
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:29 am to 21JumpStreet
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:29 am to 21JumpStreet
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Then they should move all the automatic qualifiers up seeds and the teams that have to play in, the 16th seed to face the number 1 seeds since they weren't good enough to make the round of 64, IMO.
Well, you can't do that. You'd wind up with 1 seeds drawing better teams than the 2s, 3s, etc.
The 11 line seems about right for the play in games.
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:30 am to Speedy G
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I think there are plenty of at large bids to go around, and those pretty much all go to major conferences. I don't think a team that finishes 6th in its conference has much room to complain if they don't get in.
Exactly.
And if you have to take some of those 6th-in-conference teams, you're more likely to go with the ACC over the SEC, for example. And that's okay and the way it should be IMO.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:30 am to Speedy G
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This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:30 am to CocomoLSU
while we're on the subject, why did it expand from 64 to 68? What was wrong with just having it how it was?
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:32 am to WG_Dawg
NCAA bylaws mandate you must have a certain percentage of at large teams competing for a championship. That's why you have 68.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:32 am to CocomoLSU
The SEC only got 5 in... don't think anyone but Aggie fans are butthurt that they didn't get in too.
I don't think anyone would have been too upset if LSU or Ole Miss has missed out as well. I think LSU is in about the right spot, but if they had been left out, it wouldn't have been a travesty.
I don't think anyone would have been too upset if LSU or Ole Miss has missed out as well. I think LSU is in about the right spot, but if they had been left out, it wouldn't have been a travesty.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:37 am to CocomoLSU
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Why? For example, Ole Miss almost beat UK. Hampton or Manhattan won't come that close (or close at all most likely). Ole Miss is obviously a better team than either of those teams. Thus, Ole Miss shouldn't be "playing for a 16 seed."
It's okay to have smaller/shittier schools at lower seeds if they deserve lower seeds (which most of the time, they will), but I do like the idea that automatic bids shouldn't have to be in play-in games.
True. The 1 seeds may not like it, but the teams playing in would hate to play the 1 seeds as well.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:38 am to LSUBoo
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I don't think anyone would have been too upset if LSU or Ole Miss has missed out as well. I think LSU is in about the right spot, but if they had been left out, it wouldn't have been a travesty.
Agreed. I, for one, thought we should get in but wasn't overly confident in that considering some of our losses. That's why I was really hoping we could've won that last home game against UT or at least one in the SECT. Because as seen now, 11 wins won't necessarily get you in. But ultimately we made it and others were left on the outside, thankfully.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:43 am to sms151t
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NCAA bylaws mandate you must have a certain percentage of at large teams competing for a championship. That's why you have 68.
So, change the bylaws.
The women still play with 64 teams.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:50 am to Speedy G
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no team that won an automatic bid should have to play their way in.
There is no "play in" game tho. Today the 1st round begins.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:59 am to CocomoLSU
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Why? For example, Ole Miss almost beat UK. Hampton or Manhattan won't come that close (or close at all most likely). Ole Miss is obviously a better team than either of those teams. Thus, Ole Miss shouldn't be "playing for a 16 seed."
This also gives an unfair advantage to the 6 seed since they will have fresher legs
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:17 am to graychef
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No doubt these teams are better than the 15/16 seeds
How can you say this? Pretty much every year a 15 or 16 seed plays a 1 or 2 seed close. They sure as hell would give an 11 or 12 seed all they can handle.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:31 am to 21JumpStreet
I wish the automatically qualifying 16 seeds would make the 64-team tournament proper however I do understand that by pushing 2 16 seeds down this makes the 15 seeds better. Better 15 seeds means more upsets (which we have seen more of over the last few years in the 2/15 game).
The difference between a 16 seed and a 15 seed can be extremely high
The difference between a 16 seed and a 15 seed can be extremely high
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:34 am to T
I dislike the creeping enlargement of the field. 64 teams is a ton and that is more than enough. The play-in games should go. I don't watch them (of course, I admit if Auburn was in one I'd watch it).
Sometimes I feel like an old man yelling at kids to get off my lawn, but I really dislike play-in games and conference expansion. When things are the perfect size the PTBs can't help but try to squeeze more money by expanding. IMO the extras just water down the product.
Sometimes I feel like an old man yelling at kids to get off my lawn, but I really dislike play-in games and conference expansion. When things are the perfect size the PTBs can't help but try to squeeze more money by expanding. IMO the extras just water down the product.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:06 pm to BluegrassBelle
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My only counter to that is that you're punishing teams for playing in better conferences just because they can't beat a Kentucky or a Gonzaga. Which seems kind of shitty.
A lot of these play in at-large teams have 10 or more losses if they are from a major conference, they are being rewarded for playing in a tough conference just by having the opportunity to still get in.
It isn't unfair at all, if anything the play-in games should be the last eight at-large teams. I agree with making them all play in for the 11 seed.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:08 pm to 21JumpStreet
The reason is to keep the 16 over 1 magic alive. Just wouldn't be as cool if they did it as their second win of the tournament.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:19 pm to 21JumpStreet
Just stupid, made for TV dollars thats it
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