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re: Fifteen Houston- area HS football coaches make at least $100k
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:39 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:39 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
One of my old coaches tracked his hours spent on coaching (he was an assistant for two HS sports). He then totaled it up and divided his coaching pay (stipend above base teaching salary) to see how much an hour he made for coaching. Made well below minimum wage for those hours.
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:40 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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However, in this particular case for a person who ONLY coaches football to make more than twice what a teacher makes is somewhat absurd.
Gotta disagree boss, head coaches' livelihoods sometimes rest on whether or not 17-year-old Bobby can haul in the fade pass in the corner end zone to make the playoffs.
Mrs. Anderson who teaches social studies isn't getting canned because three individuals fail some state testing.
When two teachers can pack the lower two bowls at Jerry World for the state championship maybe, until then it's the guys who wear the headsets who get the big paycheck.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:43 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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However, in this particular case for a person who ONLY coaches football to make more than twice what a teacher makes is somewhat absurd.
Good number of them are also the Athletic Directors too.
Id also be interested in the revenue from ticket sales when they hire a head coach that makes $51k a year, teaches 6 classes, and loses 10 games a year. Vs. the one that makes $100k annually and is in the playoffs.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:46 pm to double d
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One of my old coaches tracked his hours spent on coaching (he was an assistant for two HS sports). He then totaled it up and divided his coaching pay (stipend above base teaching salary) to see how much an hour he made for coaching. Made well below minimum wage for those hours.
This is no doubt one of the reasons I no longer coach. The pay just wasn't worth it for the hours I was putting in. Not just coaching, but driving the bus, mowing the field, etc...
Again, I am not talking about the stipend above base teaching salary, I'm talking about the guys with no teaching required... just coaching.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:47 pm to Hot Carl
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Our HC was also athletic director.
Which would explain the bump in pay and why they don't teach.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:47 pm to Golfer
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Good number of them are also the Athletic Directors too.
This is also a good point. The AD deals with a lot of crap that nobody else wants to deal with. I can see the extra pay for that.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:49 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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Again, I am not talking about the stipend above base teaching salary, I'm talking about the guys with no teaching required... just coaching.
How many of those guys actually have that? I know of one coach in Georgia and his name is Rush Propst who is worth every dollar they pay him.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:50 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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I don't doubt that these coaches put in work, but you are kidding yourself if you think teachers only work 7AM-3PM for 9 months a year. In fact, from my experience coaching and teaching, the majority of coaches work MUCH less than their teaching counterparts.
Is this where I pour out a beer for the poor teachers who all made more than I did starting out?
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:54 pm to Golfer
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Good number of them are also the Athletic Directors too.
This, my coach in HS was also AD for the School.
Also, depending on how the booster club for each school/team is set up, they may be contributing to the coaches' salary.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:56 pm to texastiger38
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This, my coach in HS was also AD for the School.
Same here as well and mine definitely made north of six figures and that was at a now 4A (Old 3A before the change) school in Texas.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:58 pm to McCaigBro69
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Gotta disagree boss, head coaches' livelihoods sometimes rest on whether or not 17-year-old Bobby can haul in the fade pass in the corner end zone to make the playoffs.
The difference is 99 out of 100 times, little Bobby is trying his hardest to catch that fade route. Little Bobby WANTS to be there for practice and games.
Unfortunately, little Bobby doesn't give a darn about Mrs. Anderson, Social Studies, or her test. Little Bobby doesn't want to be in the class, and therefore doesn't care about the repercussions to him or Mrs. Anderson.
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Mrs. Anderson who teaches social studies isn't getting canned because three individuals fail some state testing
Do some research and educate yourself on Value Added Evaluations with the new education regulations.
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When two teachers can pack the lower two bowls at Jerry World for the state championship maybe, until then it's the guys who wear the headsets who get the big paycheck
So entertainment value is what you are basing this off of? Not preparing Bobby for life outside of a sport that statistically speaking he has less than a 2% chance to go pro in? 10-4 keep those priorities straight.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:59 pm to texastiger38
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This, my coach in HS was also AD for the School.
I went to a Houston area 5A (Now 6A) school and our HC was also the AD as well. I didn't realize it was something so common and figured it was just because our school district was cheap.
I would imagine a good bit of them making in the six figures this article is talking about are also the AD as well.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 12:59 pm to Jcorye1
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Is this where I pour out a beer for the poor teachers who all made more than I did starting out?
Are they still making more than you? If so you chose a wrong profession and I'm sorry for your liberal arts degree.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:03 pm to rlebl39
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I went to a Houston area 5A (Now 6A) school
Same here.
I kinda figured it was common, just so the schools could hire better talent coaches.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:05 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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Do some research and educate yourself on Value Added Evaluations with the new education regulations.
Does Texas have this?
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:05 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Does Texas have this?
Pretty sure we don't.....I was trying to figure out what the frick this was
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:08 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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Unfortunately, little Bobby doesn't give a darn about Mrs. Anderson, Social Studies, or her test. Little Bobby doesn't want to be in the class, and therefore doesn't care about the repercussions to him or Mrs. Anderson.
Well that just isn't correct.
Most of the 'dynasties' here in Texas are in high-wealth areas where the main demographic is the white family.
South Lake Carroll, Katy, Allen, Austin Westlake, Brock, Aledo to name a few.
These aren't schools where they're underfunded trying to get their kids to pass. These are schools where the parents are likely hauling in more than $300K a year and have prioritized education from a young age.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:10 pm to McCaigBro69
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Pretty sure we don't.....I was trying to figure out what the frick this was
Is your teaching job dependent on student growth from test scores? We have it in Georgia but it keeps changing so much that it hasn't had an effect yet.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:11 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Looks like they could be implimenting it state-wide this year
It has been piloted since 2014 from what I was able to find.
It has been piloted since 2014 from what I was able to find.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:13 pm to McCaigBro69
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Well that just isn't correct. Most of the 'dynasties' here in Texas are in high-wealth areas where the main demographic is the white family. South Lake Carroll, Katy, Allen, Austin Westlake, Brock, Aledo to name a few. These aren't schools where they're underfunded trying to get their kids to pass. These are schools where the parents are likely hauling in more than $300K a year and have prioritized education from a young age.
What does any of that have to do with what you quoted. I don't care if the school is underfunded or if the parents make $300k, a kid is a kid and they don't want to be in class.
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